Stargate Through the Looking Glass and into Heaven.

DocSolarisReich

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It started as that in secret under Reagan but I think I had Clinton create it as it's own multi service Branch of the military or a military all it's own. Which would have seemed absurd and as little more than a pentagon scheme to retire up officers and undesirables and as more gibs

But let's just say the US has known about potential hostile for a bit and the plan was to low key build up a proper space navy/military on the sly.

LOL, are you going to bring in any of the UFO conspiracy folklore, like the McKinnon/SolarWarden stuff?

 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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LOL, are you going to bring in any of the UFO conspiracy folklore, like the McKinnon/SolarWarden stuff?


I might, but I don't want to go down that rabbit hole too much.

Roswell did happen, Loki had a little accident and we will leave it at that for now.
 
Children of the Gods Part 1- The Knight and the Serpent.

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Children of the Gods Part 1- The Knight and the Serpent.


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Try not the patience of King Cobras, for they’ve none and their wrath is matched only by their fury.Indian proverb.







Cheyenne Space Force complex- June 27th, 2020



Five years after the Abydos Mission.







“I see your twenty and raise you fiddy”



“Ahh’m out” a mammoth of a man in the blue fatigues of the Space Force Marine regiment. Created by Colonel Jack O’Neill six months after he returned from whatever classified mission he’d been sent on and trained by Kowalski, they were supposed to be the premier combat unit of the “navy of the stars”. In many ways it was a return to form for marines who in the days of the age of sail fought in ship-to-ship combat. In others, the marines who made up the new “branch” of the Space Force were all too happy to take a pay raise and a bunch of desks to ride while global tensions were at a lull.



For Sergeant Ruiz and his group of losers, it was a great way to run a little poker and billiards ring. All in all, twenty men and women were in what was once referred to as the “Gate Room”, though none of them knew that. Those present here, had nothing to do with the Abydos mission, Kowalski had married Carolyn Lahm and accepted a post training Space Force Marines at a new facility in Florida near Daytona two years ago and O’Neill had retired a year before that. General West passed away from a stroke in twenty seventeen and General Landry and Admiral Ellis were at the main facility in Houston, Katherine Langford passed away at the age of one hundred and six after returning from a six-month expedition into Peru with her great grandchildren and a great-great granddaughter. Of all of those involved in or around the mission only one remained, the giant stoic Admiral Hammond whom everyone in the base affectionately (and not without some reverence) referred to as “The Texan”. Hammond was tall, bald with a barrel-chested and shoulders as massive as the mountain that held this facility, he still presided over the Mountain Complex and it seemed to be very much his own fiefdom for all the latitude he was given and willing to give his men.



Though he seldom came down to the “the hangar” anymore, he knew about the little party hall they set up down here, but he didn’t mind it. It was better for marines to be entertained or engaged in routine than to be stuck on their asses with nothing to do, Hammond at least understood that. “Hey Christmas, you gonna fold or what?”



Regina “Reggie” Christmas was a Lance Corporal who was relatively new to the base, having served here only six months. She was in her twenties and had the classic California beach blond looks, something that earned her nicknames like “Baywatch”, not that she minded. Reggie had six brothers, the juvenile shit just reminded her of him and if she was being honest with herself. Helped calm her nerves, because Regie, really, really didn’t like this assignment. The whole facility creeped her out, the cloak and dagger shit was supposed to be an easy way to fast track the ranks, but this place was just bizarre. At nights, she could sometimes hear things in empty hallways and janitors’ closets, and then there was that creepy fossil and the weird Egyptian cover stone thing on display. Civilians were always in here as well, something she didn’t quite know how to feel about.



“Hey! Regie, you gonna call or fold or what?!”



“Fold” she muttered; she was gawking at the weird ring thing under the tarp again. Elegant, yet Spartan, she’d caught a glimpse of it once. It looked like it was worth a fortune, with all the weird gem filled veins and gold and other material she couldn’t place, yet it was just there. Taking up space and creeping her out. “Do you..does anyone know what that thing is?” she asked the group of men.





“A money pit” Ruiz remarked, taking a long drag of a cheap cigar.



“A paycheck” Corporal Williams, his Jamaican accent still as strong as it was when she knew him when they were kids. It was nice to have at least one friend here. He’d been stationed here longer than her and he was well accustomed to how superstitious she was. “Just ignore the vibes!”





“Yeah” Christmas muttered before she felt a gust of wind and whipped around to the gate, the tarp seemed partially blown off. Her eyes narrowed “You sure that thing doesn’t do anything?” she asked. Another marine in the back by the makeshift bar groaned “She goes again, see’n ghosts”



“Don’t knock it man, my grandma she got the sight too” Ruiz said casually, between drags of his cigar. “Though she’s been a little off lately, she called me this morning telling me not to report for duty, saying I was gonna get bitten by a king cobra.”



“King Cobras?” Porter, one of the civilian’s researchers asked. “What does she think you’re stationed in Asia?”



“Nah, she knows where I am..I told her, ain’t no cobras of any sort in Colorado” Ruiz said with a wry laugh that died in his throat as the ground began to shake, the ramp to the gate groaned and the tarp came fully off.



Everyone stood, guns were grabbed, food was discarded and soon alarm was replaced with awe and terror as a dialing sequence not witnessed by American born humans in five years began and soon the whirring noise was replaced with a geyser of raw energy that tore a whole in time and space as it collapsed in on itself. Lights flickered, alarm klaxons blared and the room was illuminated by the deep blue glow of a wormhole, a tear in space, a bridge between worlds.





Christmas swallowed, Ruiz moved to stand in front of her, but she brushed him aside and started to walk towards the pool of almost clear, water like energy. The “sight’ as Ruiz called it, she was so superstitious because she’d always been sensitive, often times it was just being able to sense danger before it happened but sometimes, she could “feel” things, impressions. She’d always dismissed it as a talent she picked up from her father who was a profiler for the FBI but now? “We need to abandon the room” she muttered.



“Are you nuts?! We don’t retreat from lightshows Chonga” Ruiz muttered annoyed.



Christmas shook her head, it wasn’t the lightshow it was, something else, hungry, incredibly ancient and supremely aggressive. “I don’t…its...” her words were cut off as what looked like an ostrich sized Fabergé egg seemed to “splash” out of the pool and land, tumbling down the ramp. For a second nothing happened and then suddenly there was a violent flash of energy and a sequence of blinking lights. Someone shouted to “shoot the ball” and she pulled her side arm only to be hit by a surge of what felt like lightning that dropped her to her knees and caused her to convulse in agony. Above her head bright purple and pink streaks of energy smashed into her fellow marines, Williams her childhood friend was bisected by twin blasts that tore through him and careened into the pool table setting it blaze as his upper half went flying into another marine, causing him to tumble back into the bar.



“OPEN FIRE!” Ruiz roared but if their bullets connected with anything beyond the weird pool he would never know because the next thing he knew he was face down on the floor, his nose broken and several teeth knocked loose from the impact, which was when he realized he was awfully cold and then he realized why.



His left leg lay on the floor, the burnt flesh and ash that used to be his kneecap smoldering. The last thing he saw were five armored creatures with the heads of…



Cobras.





…….


Command level.





Colonel Bartholomew Samuels stalked towards the Texan’s office, while he’d been briefed on the Abydos mission, nothing exactly prepared him for the alarm that was roaring from the Gate Room. He’d hated this assignment, sent here to represent the “air force” component of the space force and its interests, he frequently found himself at odds with Admiral Hammond and with the duplicitous Maybourne. The facility itself was more of a shrine to that punk ass Marine and his dead team than it was anything useful. The souvenirs they’d brought back from Abydos, yielding some advancements in material sciences and computer speed but little else. They’d been playing with one of the devices for the last five years and some of the mineral samples but whatever headway was made there that lunatic Carter got all the credit for. Today had started with the same mind-numbing routine, wake up before dawn, exorcise, get dressed, listen to Director (Formerly Admiral) Ellis bitch at him in a conference call something or other and then off to get patronizing glares from the Navy seal and cold war legend that was George Hammond. God, he hated this assignment, he sucked at this assignment, he rued the day Congresswoman Kensey forced him into this shit assignment. If I had been on Abydos, maybe it would be worth it, maybe.



As it stood, all he had to look forward too was going home and going to bed. Until all hell broke loose. Maybe, just maybe he could convince the General to order the base’s self-destruct! Wouldn’t that be great! Oh who was he kidding, Admiral Hammond wouldn’t be so generous. Well, no, maybe he’d be lucky?



And then he saw the giant Texan storming out of his office, His side arm drawn and what looked like a non-regulation Bowie knife and belt being hurriedly strapped to his waist by Petty Officer O’Neill. No such luck Samuels rolled his eyes, the reddish-brown haired O’Neill twin was flanked by her sibling, who was a civilian and one of Carters fellow inmates at the crazy house. The Civilian one was repeatedly asking if she could have a gun to which Lieutenant Paul Davis repeatedly said “No” sounded like an annoyed older sibling. The sight would have been comical if it didn’t mean that Hammond intended to head down below and see what was up for his own damn self.



“Colonel Samuels, what in the hell is going on in my mountain?!” Samuels wasn’t sure what scared him more, the fact that Hammond was glaring at him like a sailor lost at sea might start eying a fellow castaway after five days without food or that he sounded less alarmed that space aliens might be storming Cheyenne Mountain and more annoyed they disrupted his nightly call with a member of his army of grandchildren.



“Reports coming in from the gate room indicate there was a breach” Samuels replied, the belt with the Admirals knife fastened the O’Neill twin who was a navy brat looked up confused “Something came through the gate?! I thought that was impossible!” She wheeled on her sister “Sasha! You and Sam said that was impossible”



Sasha O’Neill was about to bite back at her sister when Hammond wheeled on her and she all but shrunk under his withering “Impossible huh?” Hammond asked. She offered a frazzled smile “Well..we couldn’t get it to work anywhere else..”



“Ahh yes, because the two of you are smarter than the damn space king who built it correct?!” Hammond growled, twitching his head to the right nearly catching Petty Officer Sandra O’Neill mouthing “run” to her sister. What was he going to do with these two, he loved them like Granddaughters but sometimes he wanted to kick them down an elevator shaft.



“Well, sir I mean they’re like telephones..we figured, the lines were cut” Sasha blurted out, very much looking like a granddaughter on the receiving end of a scolding.



“Little girl, did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe something might have I don’t know? Fixed the lines?!”



“You mean like uh..C-cosmic cable guy? But Dad he..Well they killed Ra so who was left the fix it?”



“We’ll we’re about to find out, aren’t we?” Hammond asked as he resumed his stocking down the corridor “And Davis, give the girl a damn gun, will you?” he called back. Despite herself Sasha managed a triumphant grin. Along with a half dozen security personnel the group made their way to an elevator, ready for action.





Until she got into the elevator and found a Space Force tech bleeding to death in the elevator, something had opened his midsection and there were scorch marks above him, for a second Sasha nearly lost it. The O’Neill twins to their credit, didn’t freeze up, the memories of their dead brother, of finding his body hadn’t consumed them, probably because there was a chance, they were about to go fight space aliens. Probably or maybe they’d finally been able to heal, it also helped that neither of them wanted to disappoint the Admiral, who along with Ellis and their father were role models. Hammond to his credit didn’t even bother looking back to make sure they were okay, that subtle gesture of confidence did more to steady their nerves than anything else could have. -We’ve got this, we’ve been here before, nothing you can see is going to surprise you, you’re an O’Neill you got this-.



The elevator doors opened, and Davis managed to pull Hammond away in time to avoid an energy blast that tore open the side of the door. From one angle the Admiral could hear gun fire as the Space Force Marine Regiment was going apeshit on the intruders, coming towards the Gate Room with everything they had. On the other side, the alien trash that decided to trespass in George Samuel Hammond’s mountain and get away with it. In the smoke the old man could make out men in sleek leather like material with what looked like segmented armor along the upper arms and torso and their heads? A metal helm with glowing red eyes, in the form of Cobras, their “mouths” hissing and distorted demonic sounding voices produced by some kind of filtration system filled the air. They were armed with sleek black staffs, the base tapering into a spear tip and the top being little more than a gem inside a barrel. They were ornate but practical, far more militaristic than what the O’Neill report had described. Hammond didn’t waste time, he grabbed a rifle from one of the airmen next to him and opened fired, the snakes Helm took one, two and a third shot from armor piercing rounds before it finally crumpled, causing the snake man to hiss and growl, blinded and injured by the dented metal. Hammond finished him off with a bullet to the same area, causing its head to cave in. Men swarmed him laying down cover fire, but Hammond pushed through. Oh sure, Senator Hayes had picked him because he was a great administrator but Hammond was a SEAL and an old cold war dog first and pencil pusher third.



“How you boys doin?” Hammond called out to the marines who were fighting for their lives on the other side of the hallway. “Not bad sir! Just hav’n a little problem sir!” One called, it was a blond in her late thirties with an ashy voice, Carter? Yes, that was it, Carter, like the lunatic. “And what problem is that Carter?”



“Well, we got some trespassers sir”



“In whose mountain?”



“Your mountain sir!”



“Then maybe I should lend you marines a hand kicking these reprobates out of my damn mountain, out of our country and the hell out of our solar system!” Hammond roared, his blood up and his blue eyes burning with a little bit of madness. He was enjoying this too damn much.



“Sir! IT WOULD BE AN HONOR SIR!”



“Same here Carter, now let’s go get your boys and if we can’t let’s get even”



Her feral grin matched his own “SIR YES SIR!” turning she roared at her men to move and the group began to advance on the attackers. “Sir I recommend we don’t get anywhere near them, two of my men cornered one and that couldn’t have been more than fourteen and she tore them apart with her bare hands” Carter warned “I fed her a grenade though”



Of course, she did.





“You trying to blow up my mountain marine?!”



“SIR NO SIR, JUST DISCIPLINING A JUVENILE DELINQUENT SIR!”





More energy blasts whirred overhead, Sasha was forced to stay behind the detail, but she could see her sister managing to rush to one of the fallen attackers where she grabbed its weapon and, like a total lunatic spent two seconds out of cover trying to figure out how it worked before she shrugged and broke it over the head of one of the Snake dudes who staggered enough that he was taken out by a pair of Marines that had been left for dead in another hallway.



“How many?” Hammond called back.



Carter shook her head “We guestimate about fifteen”



“FIFTEEN?!” Hammond asked alarmed, there were a hundred marines down here, what the hell kind of enemy manages to force a hundred marines back. “To hell with this, lets go!” he roared.



The fight to the Gate room lasted almost an hour, despite mounting losses these snake aliens refused to yield. They didn’t give an inch of ground unless it was without cost, of the hundred marines and thirty Airmen who participated in the action, some seventy were left by the end of it and Hammond was certain part of that had to do with the enemy not being prepared for serious resistance.





Once they got closer to the Gate room, the carnage was even worst, techs were strewn about on the floor, there was even one dead snake man something that made Hammond offer a bittersweet smile to his fallen scientists. Below, in the Gate Room itself he could make out what was left of Ruiz and his party group, which was Reggie Christmas, draped over the shoulder of the one snake man whose helmet was “deactivated”. He saw a bald head to rival his own, dark skin and a pair of Dark blue eyes on a jaw that looked like it belonged on a Roman bust. A gold symbol of a Cobra with its hood unfurled seemed to be tattooed onto his flesh at the center of his forehead above the eyes (Despite obviously being gold). Eyes that looked grim, contemplative, and mournful. Another beside him, a younger male was issuing orders or so Hammond suspected, but there wasn’t really anyone left to issue an order too, they’d killed all the ones who’d gone up the facility.





Behind them, the pool of water like energy shimmered and what exited was a man in golden armor, who stood a mighty six eleven and yet was oddly sleek in his looks. Oh, he was coiled steel, Hammond could tell that by how he moved. He wore no serpents helmet, only a golden skull cap with an emerald serpent in the same pattern as the bald warrior. His face was gaunt, he had the look of a man who hadn’t slept very well in a long time, restless and only content now because he was engaged in battle. His smile was cruel and proud, very much the bravado of a King Cobra and his eyes which were almost turquoise looked incredibly old.



Which was a stark contrast to his body, which looked to be barely old enough to drink. Christmas began to wake, she elbowed the back of the bald man’s head he grunted less in pain and more in surprise, but it was enough that she came loose and landed, reaching for a side arm that wasn’t there any longer had been her fatal mistake because the golden man grabbed her by her throat and yanking Christmas forward in a violent jerk that seemed to nearly pop off her head, his eyes narrowing.



Something happened between them in that moment, he couldn’t tell what, but she seemed to twitch and gasp, horrified, confused and awestruck and then she screamed and went limp.



Sandra, Carter and Davis advanced and pointed their weapons. The golden man laughed, and his laughter provoked an odd twinge in Hammond’s chest, as if anxiety was rushing to the surface, at once he started to doubt and despair and he blinked confused, then he got angry. The golden man held Christmas in front of him, a human shield. Hammond didn’t flinch, instead he fired over her shoulder and managed to nail the golden bastard in the neck. The bullet bounced harmlessly off something around his throat under the uniform and when the bald man raised the staff weapon to fire the golden man uttered some kind of command that sounded like “CREE” and he lowered it.



The gate had shut off five minutes ago, according to readings, but the bald man pressed something on his right wrist and coordinates began to dial into the gate, too fast for Hammond to follow, soon the vortex he’d read about formed and the Golden man looked down at him.



And smiled in a mix of amusement and respect. Before disappearing into the vortex with what remained of his men.





In the aftermath, the Admiral could hear one of the O’Neill twins vomiting, Carter saying a prayer for her dead marines and the irate flailing of that idiot Samuels.



But Hammond could barely focus on it all.



Something had just invaded the United States, the planet Earth and his damn mountain and then kicked him in the balls and made off with one of his men.



Something, that was supposed to be dead.
 
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bullethead

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Not really sold that this version of O'Neill would A) tell his surviving kids about a super secret op he did, B) let them join the military, or C) allow them to serve under Hammond while knowing about Ra's empire.

Also, not really feeling keeping the old "people in the gate room" schtick. Even setting aside whether or not the post-mission analysis would catch the fact that A) the gate has way more possible combos, B) Ra/his empire has Earth's gate address, and C) Ra has a ship, implying he had at least one other planet, you'd think that the US military, in this time of not having enough good personnel, would just replace the people with a few of those robots with machine guns mounted on them. Having two guys run the robots from a room several levels up seems cheaper and easier than actually posting marines in that room.

That said, I now have "Kowalsky and Lahm" stuck in my head as the name of a spinoff sitcom.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Not really sold that this version of O'Neill would A) tell his surviving kids about a super secret op he did, B) let them join the military, or C) allow them to serve under Hammond while knowing about Ra's empire.

You're assuming two things.

1, O'Neill had any say in that decision or that his kids found out about it through him. I'll get to that soon enough.

2, that serving under Hammond wasn't the least fucked up option

This was very much a mix of "kids being stupid" and "certain factions with with USSF wanting an insurance policy against dad".

Ellis and Hammond are trying to protect them as a favor to O'Neill. Hence why one serves as Hammonds Aid and the other is a researcher who is normally far away from there tinkering under Sam.

Hammond and Ellis are nice men, Hayes is an okay guy. General West and Kensey and their faction are not nice people.


Also, not really feeling keeping the old "people in the gate room" schtick. Even setting aside whether or not the post-mission analysis would catch the fact that A) the gate has way more possible combos, B) Ra/his empire has Earth's gate address, and C) Ra has a ship, implying he had at least one other planet, you'd think that the US military, in this time of not having enough good personnel, would just replace the people with a few of those robots with machine guns mounted on them. Having two guys run the robots from a room several levels up seems cheaper and easier than actually posting marines in that room.


I'll explain that soon enough.

It's a stupid decision, but at the same time. O'Neills after action report left a lot of room for conjecture and the Space Force Brass were convinced the Gate was more for commerce and not logistically viable for military purposes

Hence why there's so much focus on Ellis and what he is doing and Hammond by contrast is sort of commanding the junior priority stuff.

They made a lot of erroneous assumptions.

Also the Space Force is still seen as the vacation spot and so they do have more people just not necessarily always the right kind.

Hammond tries though.


That said, I now have "Kowalsky and Lahm" stuck in my head as the name of a spinoff sitcom.
:ROFLMAO:

Assumptions old man, assumptions make an ass out of you and me.

"In my mountain!"

General Hammond was our guy by like the Enemy within but for the first two episodes he was kind of a dick.

He's a good guy here but he is also working off a lot of bad Intel.

Not quite. Bad conclusion based on false intelligence.

Tends to be the same thing for the poor sod on the ground though.

"And you know this Ra guy commands a vast empire because he what now?"

"Beamed a movie into my head where he fucked up a fleet of ships that looked like hammers"

"Uh huh and Jackson thought the guy was the last hold out of a dead empire?"

"Yeah and admittedly the mind whammy sort of agreed with that based on my interpretation of it and how butthurt he was"

It's a hell of a thing for the brass to accept without being confused as hell and skeptical.

Even if they do have access to the Roswell crash and know other things exist out there.

You are correct. False Intel indeed!
 
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The Immortal Watch Dog

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@bullethead the one thing you didn't object too was Apophis still bothering to raid backwaters for hosts when their empire is ginormous and presumably doesn't lack for a variety of options? And that how they take hosts is rather different here?

Ra's rants about what a freak Apophis was must have been more effective than I thought:p
 

bullethead

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he one thing you didn't object too was Apophis still bothering to raid backwaters for hosts when their empire is ginormous and presumably doesn't lack for a variety of options?
Apophis being a big douchebag kept in line by his brother fits both timelines pretty well.

Is the SGC going to be rocking the NGSWs? A 6.8mm AP round seems like a good solution for the souped up Jaffa.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Apophis being a big douchebag kept in line by his brother fits both timelines pretty well.

Brother in law but true! That reminds me I need to elaborate on the Goa'uld more...which gives me an idea for enemy mine.


How am I handling the snakes so far?

Is the SGC going to be rocking the NGSWs? A 6.8mm AP round seems like a good solution for the souped up Jaffa.

Yeah actually I was meaning to ask you guys if you had any input for the kind of gear the SG teams should use, gun recs would be appreciated.

I do plan on them eventually getting energy weapons of Murika make but yeah. They'll probably always have guns

And Jack wouldn't abandon his 1911 unless he gave it to his daughter or something.
 

DocSolarisReich

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If 5.7 works on Jaffa, then 5.56 should work but at longer ranges, out to 300 m instead of 100m like the little pdw. I would expect the SG teams to be rocking HK 416s / M27 IARs and MK 48 Maximi lightweight thirty cal belt feeds for base of fire.
 

StormEagle

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the one thing you didn't object too was Apophis still bothering to raid backwaters for hosts when their empire is ginormous and presumably doesn't lack for a variety of options? And that how they take hosts is rather different here?

I’m assuming Apophis is still Apophis here.

In other words, a gigantic asshat that would do this kind of thing for the shits and giggles.

Kinda like that kid playing with the magnifying glass going over to the ant hill.

Or maybe, because this stories snake boys seem to be an actually functional species, he decided to go kick in the front door of the people that killed the all high warlord of his species.

Anyways, good story so far man! Please keep it up!
 

DocSolarisReich

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DMR should be HK 417 / M110A1, sidearms are probably bring your own or get stuck with an issue M9 because obviously you don’t care.

Heavy supporting direct fires from M3 MAAWS (Carl Gustav 84mm recoiless rifle)

M203 UGLs should be distributed widely throughout the teams, but there may also be a dedicated grenadier carrying M32 rotary grenade launchers. Nothing quite says back the fuck off like six 40 mm he frags hitting your little ambush position on the ridge.

Also there should be armed drones deployed through the stargate, nothing like being able to paint a target for a hellfire or jdam strike when you want it gone.

And the MALP should be bringing an M2 50cal or a Mk19 as SOP, preferably mounted via CROWS so it can be remotely operated.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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If 5.7 works on Jaffa, then 5.56 should work but at longer ranges, out to 300 m instead of 100m like the little pdw. I would expect the SG teams to be rocking HK 416s / M27 IARs and lightweight thirty cal belt feeds for base of fire.

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Yeah, they're definitely going to be way better equipped this time around. The P-90's were...cute.

Apophis' boys are also a bit more...well armored and well trained than Ra's personal rentacops were. Chulak is basically space Texas if Texas had West Point and the pentagon in it. So they're gonna start some serious shit.


What's your read on my Jaffa? verses Canon?


I’m assuming Apophis is still Apophis here.

In other words, a gigantic asshat that would do this kind of thing for the shits and giggles.

Kinda like that kid playing with the magnifying glass going over to the ant hill.

I wrote up a bunch of authors notes for myself including character descriptions and Apophis went something like

"Once was the greatest warrior among the Goa'uld second only to Anubis, the tens of thousands of years of peace left him feeling rudderless and lost and he eventually gained 900lbs and even his formidable healing powers couldn't stop the daily heart attacks" and "Lost 700 of those pounds and got back into shape to put down Cronus' rebellion for Ra" and "Currently is sitting out the looming succession crisis but gets back into action when the Tollan show up" and "Had so many mistresses entire planetary populations share a bit of his genetic material"

Etc...Apophis is basically what would happen if someone told Vegeta he had to stop kicking the shit out of people and go be a mayor or Conan on the throne of Aquilonia.

He's been miserable since the last ice age and desperately wants a good fight again.

Hammond taking a shot at him was probably a bad idea because Apophis basically now is like "LETS FIGHT THESE GUYS AGAIN THAT SHIT WAS FUCKING AWESOME!" so he's definitely going to needlessly provoke Earth now that they've shown they can stand up to him.


Or maybe, because this stories snake boys seem to be an actually functional species, he decided to go kick in the front door of the people that killed the all high warlord of his species.

Anyways, good story so far man! Please keep it up!

He's such a dudebro when Ra told him to forget about Tau'Ri he was probably like "Who?!" from between his harem of freaky Frazetta style women and cave beasts... zaru.png He'll figure it out though and we'll see his reaction. Douche Canoe that he is, he'll try and do the right thing and god help 'em all for it.

Thanks man! I'll try and get two chapters out tonight and tomorrow.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Alright, a little bit more about Goa'uld society, Galactic history and Teal'c makes his second appearance and so does Drey'ac, also the Jaffa get some world building.

Chapter summary: Two warriors make a fateful decision.
 
Bayfield Wisconsin -O’Neill family lake house

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Bayfield Wisconsin -O’Neill family lake house







It was nearly midnight when a pair of Black Chevy Taho’s pulled up to a rather large brick and wood house on the shores of Lake Superior. A home that looked like it belonged to some investment manager type, with really the only indication that it belonged to Jack O’Neill being the bronze statue of Popeye about to down a can of spinach at the center of the fountain. “Damn, this thing’s bigger than my neighborhood” The driver in the lead car whistled “How’s a Colonel’s salary net a place like this?”



“Fourth Generation marine, that and old man O’Neill and Jack’s Grandfather was a boot legger and a gun runner”



“Samuels!” Another voice from the car hissed, venom in her voice. It belonged to a woman in her early forties who was the only one in the detail who wasn’t in a Space Force Uniform. “Not the time” she added before swinging the door open and bolting out of the vehicle as if she’d been sitting next to someone with the plague. Colonel Samuels, the ever sullen and annoyed Colonel Samuels exited soon after her and made his way towards an oak door only to be told the Colonel was likely in the observation tower that was built on his private dock at the edge of the property. “He likes to look at the stars as much as he likes to hunt and fish” The woman remarked.



NID Deputy Director Kim Statterfield met Jack O’Neill in Kosovo in nineteen ninety-eight. Back then her name was Kim Seyun, the youngest daughter of a family from South Korea that moved to the US in the sixties. She’d been working as a sort of information broker and fixer, the pair exchanged intelligence and built up a repertoire. Their relationship had been beneficial, O’Neill introduced her to Robert Statterfield, a director of a program in Groom lake Nevada. He apparently was spook royalty and she ended up working for the CIA due to him, she was forty-four now, like Jack she had twin girls and she didn’t think she cried harder than when they buried Charly. What had started as a professional friendship where an older Spec ops vet mentored a dumbass kid in her over her head while using her for his own agenda (not that she minded, she did the same to him at the start) turned into a friendship that had lasted over twenty years.



Jack had been her best man; Sara and her daughters had been in the room when her kids were born. After the General West fiasco, Statterfield suspected the one reason why O’Neill didn’t go nuclear and put brains on walls when he found out that Sandra was transferred from the Florida base to the Mountain Complex was largely due to her (that and Abe Ellis promised to make sure his girls didn’t get into trouble and when the old Fox gave his word it was as good as the word of a god). Not that Jack wasn’t livid, Sasha was something he understood, both his daughters were geniuses (Both Kim and Jack were shocked about this little revelation), but Sasha had a knack for computation and engineering in ways few did. It was obvious Carter was going to poach her from MIT and Jack understood she’d be working at Area 51, way the hell away from the gate. But Sasha, Jack took the transfer of her to the facility as a threat from Kensey and Maybourne and he was probably right to do so. The West fiasco was…She put the thought out of her mind and gestured for the pessimistic asshole to follow her. It had taken a year to mend her friendship with O’Neill after he found out his girl was near the gate and she resented that a bit. She had no control over the military stuff, the fact that he lashed out at her bothered her more than she cared to admit. But none of that mattered now because the earth had been invaded by an alien menace.



Both her and Samuels strode along the wooden walkway that led to the O’Neill family personal dock and the large wood and brick observation tower that rose like a small Lighthouse on a tiny island that was some fifteen feet from the shore near the dock. Accessible by a wooden bridge she played how this would go in her mind. Part of her wanted to exhume General West’s corpse and shoot it for dereliction of duty for what happened, for dismissing Jack’s warnings that there was a chance (However admittedly small, both he and Kowalski insisted Jackson was likely correct that his empire was long dead) this Ra character wasn’t a remnant of a dead civilization but master of a Trans-Galactic hyperpower. He’d insisted what SG-Zero handed them as an after-action report was a jumbled mess of conjecture and hyperbole based off alleged telepathic visions handed to him by a space alien in the body of teenaged cave man. That part alone caused more than a few of the brass in that review to walk out. It was hard enough getting them to understand what they meant by “Ancient Egyptians copied the ruins of their colonial outpost” and most of them had glossy eyes by that point. In the end they concluded that, there was little to no chance of retaliation from Ra’s people because there was a good chance most of the ones who had advance technology either perished aboard ship or they would be too busy trying to recover from the loss of their leader and would be too far into their own decline to do anything.



This was a profoundly stupid conclusion, only Ellis, Hammond and Landry really fought it. Only those three and Jack O’Neill, well he finished up his tour, trained the next generation of Space Force Marines and then went on his merry way to retirement. Kowalski took that rough, but Statterfield understood it. There really was no way of knowing what happened out there amongst the stars and what would happen. And he was long overdue to relax, be a father and uncle and wait for the next generation of O’Neill’s to come along. After everything that happened when he returned, he deserved it.





“We should have brought the people in the other SUV” Samuel whispered, Statterfield pushed her auburn hair out her right eye and snorted derisively. “You think those rookies can’t stop Jack O’Neill if he doesn’t wanna come quietly” she asked not bothering to whisper, there was no way Jack didn’t hear them come up the stairs any way.



“Why wouldn’t I wanna go anywhere with you though? We good now!” Jack beamed, appearing almost out of nowhere in the doorway. He’d let his hair grow out again and the minor streaks of gray but otherwise it was almost impossible to tell that O’Neill was a little over fifty. He had a beat-up old flannel on and a led Zeppelin T under it and jeans that were stained with blood and smelled like they’d been inside something. “Deer?”



“Nah, Black bear tried to steal my fish, so taught it right”. From any other man that would have been an absurd boast, but from Jack O’Neill it was, well consistent from the man she knew. The only other person she’d blindly accept that from was Admiral Hammond, the man could command give the earth itself an order to stand aside and she’d shift orbit. O’Neill finally noticing Samuels smile broadly across his action hero looking face. “Who’s the gloomy guy? You didn’t dump Bob for him did ya?”



She rolled her eyes snorting “Fuck no”



Samuels twitched. “We’re here for you, Colonel”



“I’m retired gloomy”



“Not anymore you’re not”



“I retired a full Colonel right Statterfield?”



“Yup”



“Cool, then fuck off bean counter, you’re addressing a superior and he’ll come with you after you’ve had some bear burgers and beer” O’Neill said with a sarcastic grin.



“I thought you said deer?”



“Took the bear back too, what? Meats, meat”



Samuels seemed ready to have a stroke. “Sir…Admiral..Hammond..Requests you”



O’Neill blinked. Why the hell did Hammond want him? He’d been retired, did he want to give some sort of motivational speech to new recruits? Jack sucked at that. He had to know that, so then…wait, his commission got reactivated? Could they even do that anymore? Even to old Spooks like him? Why the hell did they…And then it hit him.



No, no, no, no, no he fucking warned them!



“Jack” Statterfield began, and O’Neill waved her off. His eyes narrowing “Three questions, where are my girls?!”



“With Ellis” Statterfield answered. Samuels tried to interject but she elbowed him into silence.



“Were they involved?”



“Yes” she whispered that out “But they’re fine Jack, they handled themselves well from what I hear”



“Good, that’s real, good, so then question number three. Was it the Stargate?”



She nodded.



“I’ll pack my kit”



…………



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Chulak- same time.





Chulak was an earth sized moon orbiting the ninth gas giant of a binary star system. It lay some twenty thousand lightyears from Tau’Ri, deep within the heart of the Domain of the System Lord Apophis, the God of war, defense and expansion. One of the six fathers of the Jaffa, the Human Host Apophis took (and Apophis himself), along with two Neanderthals who impressed Ra and Anubis, Anubis himself and his Ori host’s genetic material had gone into their creation. From them, sprang the mighty warrior race and protectors of the Goa’uld and their Empire of Light. While Dakkara was the birthplace of the Jaffa and the Capitol world of the greatest Empire history had ever known, Chulak held a ceremonial place.



For it was here, that the first legion of Jaffa engaged the one Ori hermitage that had enough of its old strength left to wage an offensive war. Before them, the mighty Unas were the warrior champions of the System Lords, but their numbers were few. There was doubt among the System Lords that such beings as modified humans could match or even exceed the power of the Unas, but the Ori onslaught forced their hand and after millions of Unas were slain Anubis dispatched his brother Apophis to hold them on Chulak, their backs to the wall and accompanied only by Jaffa Apophis held the Ori fleet for two hundred standard days in a planetary siege that pushed even a System Lords formidable powers to the brink. When they did finally breach and land troops, their mechanized abominations met the first Legion of Jaffa.





One million Jaffa and Apophis met ten times their number in war drones and end stage Ori in battle.





Seven hours later only ten thousand remained, the first of the Primes standing bloody beside Apophis.



The Ori broke from that point on, it was inevitable and under mighty Ra’s command the Jaffa ground the remaining Ori into bones and ash. Chulak, with its vast primeval forests and harsh climate and the natural resources of the stellar system became the heart of the Imperial military.



On Chulak there were no Lotar, no baseline human ever set foot here, save for those hosts to Goa’uld. Everything was done by Jaffa, from menial labor and farming to construction, for Anubis believed that a soldier must be a builder and a simple man ontop of a master of war. Apophis had long continued his tradition, though Apophis was neither Anubis nor Ra.



And Ra was dead.





They weren’t certain when it happened, it was normal for Ra’s Imperial progresses to take a century. He traveled slowly, purposefully slow, stopped in places that had no value beyond sentimentality and to places of great import such as Vorash or Chuulak itself. It was also fairly common to go a year without hearing from him, for his imperial progresses were as much a sojourn from the courts as they were an important function. But five years, was far too long and six months ago, after tracking the Mandjet’s subspace wake a scout ship had found its wreckage floating over Abydos of all places. Abydos! A backwater of backwaters, in his own backyard no less. It was preposterous and at first, the confusion readings from the wreckage seemed to imply there was a fissile reaction near the vessels power plant. That had made no sense to anyone, but Osiris and Horus convened an official investigation which, likewise came up with nothing. Hathor wanted to venture to Abydos and infiltrate the world, walk amongst its people in disguise and examine their minds to determine they knew anything about what transpired there. But her sons and brother talked her out of it. After all, what would those cantankerous savages know about it? Their memories would be utterly useless as they’d be tainted by their own inability to comprehend anything outside of their frame of reference as anything but magic. Perhaps Hathor was skilled enough a mind walker to filter that gibberish out Apophis had explained to him, but it was a pointless risk.



A breakthrough came a week ago when one of Thoth’s researchers identified some of the isotopes involved in the explosion. It was an incredibly rudimentary form of fissile material, something that wasn’t very widely used within imperial space outside of the planets who were forgotten, progressed on their own and then rejoined the Empire. But such societies had ironically, never been a source of rebellion outside of the Cyranus system but that seemed to be more Amaterasu’s fault than anything else. Teal’c sighed, he would have liked to have met those “Colonials” and fought their robots. Artificial life was a rarity within the known universe, mostly because it was even more mentally flawed than natural life and thus tended to destroy itself far more often than non-synthetic societies. The few times he had fought a robot, it had been an exhilarating test of his mind, body and warrior’s spirit. His thoughts turned to Ra who often encouraged Jaffa to look to their souls as much as their bodies. Ra, Teal’c had the honor of feasting with him after the end of the Titan’s rebellion, he was cold, austere but he could sense something noble buried below it all.



Ra, who forged the Empire of the System Lords, whose leadership guided them for nearly one hundred thousand years. Who led them through the aftermath of an apocalypse, Ra the artificer of the golden age they now enjoyed?



What would happen now? The whole of the Empire was in mourning, the System lords were beside themselves, all but Apophis who seemed restless and full of energy as if the death of Ra had somehow freed him from some terrible burden.



“You’re contemplative tonight my love” the silky voice belonged to a woman with copper skin and thick green hair and eyes that were the color of the night sky a deep indigo. Drey’ac, the mother of his son, one of the nine Captains of the Fleet, the equal of any First Prime, though Teal’c was no First Prime, he was War Master, one of only two living. And of the two, the only one who could command the forces of any System Lord. That Teal’c was the second First Prime of Apophis to win that honor in the last two centuries was a point of pride for the entirety of his master’s domain. Drey’ac walked behind him, threading her arms around his waist, and leaning into his back. Her hands were warm, despite the cold of Chulak’s autumn, like Teal’c she didn’t look a day over twenty-five, but like Teal’c she was one hundred and seventy years old. Like Teal’c she had held her position for eighty of those years, making them both the youngest Jaffa to reach those posts.



But that accolade paled in comparison to one hundred and fifty years of marriage and a son who was everything Teal’c could never be and everything he was. “Are you pondering Apophis’ actions again? Or the strange weapon you brought home” She whispered as a new moon rose into the sky and the night sky’s color shifted from indigo to a gentle purple as they passed a hurricane upon the gas giant’s surface larger than the planet itself. “Both” he murmured.



Teal’c was First Prime, the vast farmland and immense palace they occupied was a testament to that. That meant he was in charge of the entirety of his lords armed forces, more than that. His duty as War Master meant he was involved in the holdings of every System Lord and their defense. It was insanity to be involved in the kinds of raids and skirmishes he’d participated in back when he was a new warrior. Worse that Apophis was conducting himself like some, grotesque caricature of a System Lord, raiding backwaters for Lotars as vain Amunet sat inside Shaun'ac refusing any and all hosts that were offered to her, like some spoiled child. Klorel was another oddity, a System lord in power though not in rank, conceived by Apophis on another Goa’uld of a breed so low their larva weren’t even used as Prim’Tah’s . Forty years ago, he’d taken his first host, he’d taken four since then. One each decade, for it seemed that he could not maintain them for long, likely an artifact of his low birth.



Apophis couldn’t control his lusts, he’d been dangerously bored this last century and the System Lord Teal’c had once respected, admired and loved was now acting like a drunken thug. “I do not understand why he does this. Engages in such bestial conduct, why he debases himself and places himself in such risk and why he would have me play the part of a common bandit” It was worse than that, Apophis seemed to genuinely enjoy this lunacy, as if indulging in his baser nature and feeding Amunet’s capricious nature were the only two things that brought him any peace, disgusting. And this world, the coordinates were on none of our databanks and yet he conjures them from memory but does not say where he learned them or how he knows them? We went into an unknown and fifteen of his personal guard were slain and for what? A child?!” he spat.



“That child is the lady of Domain of night, my love and while Ra refused to accord her the full status of a noble wife or mistress, she shall still rule in our domain to some degree. Have a care my love, we do not know what her abilities are, only that she tested for the potential to manifest as one of the peers”



The “peers” referred to the unique sub species of Goa’uld called the System Lords, the most powerful and oldest of them, the ones who possessed abilities far more extraordinary than the already remarkable gifts of the Goa’uld. They were rare, Teal’c doubted more than two dozen existed, each with a baseline set of gifts and the strongest amongst them with some gifts unique to their nature. Of that two dozen, only ten were true System Lords and ruled the three Galaxies. Not counting Yu, the youngest sibling of Ra and his heavenly Kingdom which Ra permitted to be semi-independent of the Empire of the System Lords. Yu acknowledged the authority of the House of Ra and paid him tribute, but Teal’c had no authority over his Jaffa. His borders were his own and he was recognized as a King not a Lord. Though Teal’c supposed the title of Emperor made sense then, for a king yielded to Ra’s will. The relationship between Yu and Ra was a mystery and subject to much gossip, no one knew why Ra allowed this, but he had stayed out of the politics of the Empire, obeyed its edicts, and acted as a sort of shield against threats from outside their farthest frontier. Excluding Yu, only ten were true System Lords, those like Klorel who possessed the power but utterly lacked the ability to use it properly would never account amongst the Peers and if Ra, Zeus, and Osiris had their way, neither would Amunet due to her humble origins, though it seemed she too lacked the discipline.





“Our second son warns me of her often” Drey’ac said breaking the embrace to walk to the edge of the balcony. Leaning against the cool brass railing she smirked at him. Teal’c had long grown accustomed to his wife referring to the Prim’tah she carried as their other son. Most Jaffa, like Teal’c carried infant Goa’uld that were bred to never mature, to remain in their larval state forever. They were mindless, possessing intelligence comparable to that of a beast of burden and they existed only to bestow the healing powers and longevity of the Goa’uld on the Jaffa. A Jaffa could live to be four hundred (Teal’c grandmother knew a temple priestess who lived to be five hundred), the Prim’tah simply died with them when old age finally claimed them, presuming they weren’t killed in battle in the millions of skirmishes Jaffa faces across the known universe as they had become keepers of the peace more than soldiers since the empire hadn’t expanded in ten thousand years. Occasionally, a Jaffa would achieve deeds worthy enough to be implanted with a Prim’tah that would mature, it was a rare honor though it probably happened to a thousand Jaffa each century. Jaffa trusted with this task would have a hand in the psychological development of the infant, their shared experiences and thought processes. It was a risky venture, but it was done to seal the bond between the warrior caste and their masters. To ensure that the Jaffa served willingly and that it was not a wholly one-sided affair. Teal’c had not earned the honor himself quite yet, Drey’ac’s maneuver during the battle of Corlet in the Andromeda Galaxy was remarkable. Teal’c was a rare Jaffa indeed to know two Jaffa who had received this honor. The “child” growing inside his wife’s pouch was powerful, he felt it touch his mind once and there was a chance it would be accounted among the peers, which made him fearful.



Yet oddly, Apophis could not sense it, nor could Klorel. It was as if the young one concealed his presence. Drey’ac insisted he was a kind soul, likely cut out to a scribe or a law master or one of Thoth’s researchers than a mighty lord. Teal’c concurred with the assessment, what he felt from that one was nothing like their Lord. “He warns you?” Teal’c asked and she nodded.



“Though more of late, as if your adventure into that world that you took the crude projectile weapon from has heralded something”



“I see” Teal’c said troubled, Prescience was an ability Amaterasu and Hathor possessed, but it was exceedingly rare. Though, perhaps this was merely instinct from the little one? Feeding off the experience of two battle worn veterans. “I too felt…a stir when I set foot upon that world, though I cannot explain why”



She looked from Teal’c towards the snow-covered rolling hills and fields that stretched on seemingly forever, Apophis ruled a domain of nearly eleven thousand thousand lightyears. Some of which lay in the Andromeda Galaxy. It was the largest of all the domains within Imperial space, but hardly the wealthiest. Yet here, on Chulak they had found prosperity and in the service of a worthy God, or one that had been they were younger. But at what cost? “Teal’c, I know what you are planning”



He looked away “You can go to the Realm of the Osiris or Set. Thoth would welcome you for your insights into space combat. His scribes are ever searching for newer designs”



She chuckled softly “Be a test pilot as I was when we were children” she reached out and traced her fingertips along his bald scalp. “I thought perhaps Ba’al, his wealth is beyond any of other System Lord, and he has many problems with piracy”. Ba’al was also the youngest system lord, he was devious, cunning, and adventurous yet he had a sense of fair play that was fast becoming legendary. Under his service, Drey’ac and their son could establish their own Warrior house, perhaps even a school of aerial and spatial combat that she had always dreamt of. Amaterasu was off the table, even after all this time she still hated Apophis and would turn away any Jaffa born in his lands. Hathor and Horus would be the best choices, yet there was tension between the House of Ra and Apophis. It was a sad conversation, a sad thing to entertain and yet, if he did not, how long would this madness keep? “I must think on it, perhaps our departure would not even reach him. Perhaps if we stay”



“Teal’c! Stay?! Apophis was talking about expanding the fleet, training more Jaffa, he ordered my southern fleets to the border with Horus! Teal’c” Drey’ac’s pleading tone surprised Teal’c but what she was suggesting.



“You speak madness woman! No System lord would dare!” Teal’c seized her, horror in his eyes and then he nearly flinched the instant those words left his mouth. Had Bra’tac not become a legend for crushing the forces of the rebellious Cronus? Had Teal’c and Drey’ac both not fought in his insurrection as children? Was that not how they bothered entered Apophis service? Raised up by his mighty hand? Noticing the look in her eyes, questioning the foolishness that left his mouth he raised an eyebrow “Indeed and yet in the time before that the last civil war was Egeria’s uprising and that was almost forty thousand years ago!”



“There was one after Egeria’s” Drey’ac whispered and Teal’c looked away, they would not speak of the Fallen One and his attempt to cover the universe in horror and torment. No one spoke his name, not even the Asgard, he was dead, and the known universe was safe from such evil.



“Were they not concurrent?” Teal’c asked with a sigh. What she was proposing was impossible, the System Lords and the Heavenly Kingdom had kept the peace for nearly forty thousand years. A hard fought, hard won peace against implacable enemies and the known universe had known peace since then and the System Lords prosperity. If Apophis was truly threatening such stability for a throne Teal’c knew he didn’t covet..then it meant he was doing it solely for the blood.



-…How can I have missed what he has become?”



“Because you remember the Apophis of our childhood, who spoke to you as a son and me as a daughter and placed us at his right and left hand in the war against Cronus. Who allowed you to avenge your father and who said the funeral rites himself? But that was a shade, a phantom of who he was once, long ago, when the Jaffa were still young. You remember how Bra’tac described him? A mound of corpulence, barely able to survive outside of a resurrection chamber. Someone who raped millions of women and kept more mistresses than most of the other Gods keep honor guard? Teal’c if our son is right if I am right. We cannot be a party to a war for a throne for the sake of itself! If Apophis truly wished to honor Ra and keep the peace that might be one thing but…This?” Drey’ac came closer to Teal’c pressing their bodies together, urgency in her eyes. “We cannot remain, and you must make your blow a political one. You must cost him some measure of power”



Teal’c considered, his mind wandering back the battle on that strange world. Towards the iron look in the eyes of the bald War chief, the fury and concern. What would it be to fight for such a master? Perhaps his exile would not be enough, but a blow as extreme as sedition…



“If I do this, we must go our separate ways” Teal’c muttered, if he chose to go renegade, he would not drag his wife and son down with her nor the peer she carried within her. Perhaps in treason, he may serve his god better.





But all of this was the debate of two people in a state of panic. He had to think on this with a calmer head. He had to Kelno’Reem, he could not render any decision even if they both had thought on this for some Several years now. He could not make such a decision in haste, with his blood up.





Apophis could not be that far gone
 
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A Browning?

Actually, it's an AK style long stroke gas piston action turned upside down with a belt feed from the MG42. Think of it as the M249's big brother.



What's your read on my Jaffa? verses Canon?

Early yet, but you seem to be leaning into the post-human designer warrior phenotype, which I appreciate. And the hints of wargear designed for proper war, staff blasters with shoulder stocks? Win. Let me read the latest drop and find out more.
 

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