Alternate History Ideas and Discussion

Dead how? We just post as we're inspired, and I haven't been inspired lately. That said, I do have one suggestion:

1963: President Kennedy proposed a joint moon mission with the Soviet Union. What if this had happened, and continued even under Lyndon B. Johnson and the Nixon administration?

Eh, I consider threads dead when they look to be left to dust for a week or two, then again it’s probably because I’m too used to our sister sites who have more traffic

Does this joint moon mission mean Soviet and American scientists working together and exchanging ideas? Because, I think that would be considered DANGEROUS, even moreso by the Soviets
 
Say, what would have happened if the American Revolution never occurred or there came concessions to avoid over-taxing the British Colonies?
The British would basically have to throw the Indians under bus. There was no realistic scenario where the settlers don't go west. Eventually the Brits will have to do either the Commonwealth thing or put off an imperial federation.
 
The British would basically have to throw the Indians under bus. There was no realistic scenario where the settlers don't go west. Eventually the Brits will have to do either the Commonwealth thing or put off an imperial federation.

Okay, speaking of Native Americans, sorta wonder, what would it take for relations between them and Europeans to have gotten better? Like being considered honorary british and making towns/villages that border or are connected with settlers and perhaps some intermarriage here and there

No need for reservations as pseudo assimilation occurs and nobody’s a bigot and an idiot enough to kill one over doing a rain dance
 
Okay, speaking of Native Americans, sorta wonder, what would it take for relations between them and Europeans to have gotten better? Like being considered honorary british and making towns/villages that border or are connected with settlers and perhaps some intermarriage here and there

No need for reservations as pseudo assimilation occurs and nobody’s a bigot and an idiot enough to kill one over doing a rain dance
Get them to stop killing each other? The natives started fights and the settlers started fights. It's unfortunate but i doubt it could've been overly peaceful. Due to human nature and tribalistic instincts.
 
Get them to stop killing each other? The natives started fights and the settlers started fights. It's unfortunate but i doubt it could've been overly peaceful. Due to human nature and tribalistic instincts.

Natives started fights? Sorta goes against Hollywood Teachings

I was thinking less just peace agreements and more “We are now legally British or American and have our own industries, also Don Cheadle’s ancestors are my slaves”
 
Natives started fights? Sorta goes against Hollywood Teachings

I was thinking less just peace agreements and more “We are now legally British or American and have our own industries, also Don Cheadle’s ancestors are my slaves”
Hollywood's full of shitt. The Natives we're people people war on each other. As to the rest that was actually how it was supposed to be for the five civilised tribes. Andrew Jackson illegally removed them from Tennessee to Oklahoma. In what's called "The Trail of Tears". Without that maybe some of them could be intergrared. The ones who fought we're basically doomed though.
 
Andrew Jackson illegally removed them from Tennessee to Oklahoma. In what's called "The Trail of Tears". Without that maybe some of them could be intergrared. The ones who fought we're basically doomed though.

Wonder how things would be without said "The Trail of Tears" somehow I'm thinking that a few of America's richest people would be Native American land owners who'd be not fondly remembered later on and called "Robber Barons"

Corrupted by Western Civilisation, if Hollywood ever existed in that AU, they'd probably go and say that introducing education, capitalism and consumerism and other products made the "Noble Savage" into something "horrible" like the rest of Western Civilisation
 
Hollywood's full of shitt. The Natives we're people people war on each other. As to the rest that was actually how it was supposed to be for the five civilised tribes. Andrew Jackson illegally removed them from Tennessee to Oklahoma. In what's called "The Trail of Tears". Without that maybe some of them could be intergrared. The ones who fought we're basically doomed though.
That's why I rate Andrew Jackson goes down as the worst president we've ever had. He was a genocidal maniac who expelled millions of people from their homes.
 
Wonder how things would be without said "The Trail of Tears" somehow I'm thinking that a few of America's richest people would be Native American land owners who'd be not fondly remembered later on and called "Robber Barons"

Corrupted by Western Civilisation, if Hollywood ever existed in that AU, they'd probably go and say that introducing education, capitalism and consumerism and other products made the "Noble Savage" into something "horrible" like the rest of Western Civilisation
I'd imagine they would've interbreed with white folks enough. That they'd be the equivalent of "Irish" or "German" Americans. Because even with all the craziness slews of white men had babies with natives. That could only increase with close living situations. Also fun fact certain tribes kept slaves. Hollywood won't tell you that either.
 
I'd imagine they would've interbreed with white folks enough. That they'd be the equivalent of "Irish" or "German" Americans. Because even with all the craziness slews of white men had babies with natives. That could only increase with close living situations. Also fun fact certain tribes kept slaves. Hollywood won't tell you that either.

Maybe Hollywood decides to change this and make it out that the Americans purposely did something similar to that of the Australians and the Aborigine population

You know, breeding them out, making their kids look more and more white whilst raising them seperately to be as white as possible
 
Maybe Hollywood decides to change this and make it out that the Americans purposely did something similar to that of the Australians and the Aborigine population

You know, breeding them out, making their kids look more and more white whilst raising them seperately to be as white as possible
I'm prettysure we actually did do that some. Our natives were quite a bit stronger than the aborgines though I think. I mean you don't hear about stuff like the Sioux(bad mother's) Apache (bad mother's) commache(bad mother's) or Seminole (baddest mother's). About the aborgines I could be wrong though. We've got some Aussies on here though they might know more.
 
That's why I rate Andrew Jackson goes down as the worst president we've ever had. He was a genocidal maniac who expelled millions of people from their homes.


Even after this they still wanted to equitably negotiate for Statehood as the State of Sequoyah in the eastern half of Oklahoma, drew up a state constitution, and were refused. It was indeed an atrocity.

Is anyone following the Eric Flint series in 1830s Arkansas with a strongly anti-slavery equalist breakaway Republic in Arkansas allied with early-migrating indigenous Americans?
 
The French forces (let alone the British) would have had a very tough time attacking across the Franco-German frontier in 1939, the Germans had defences on their side of the border too and realistically speaking the Polish didn't need all of the luftwaffe to defeat them. The Anglo-French forces would have been at serious risk of taking heavy losses even with a great pre-ponderance in forces just in time for the victorious German forces in Poland to return to the western front and smash into them, which leads us to...

The Molotov Ribbentrop pact wasn't just about Germany not having to face Russian forces in taking over Poland it was about being able to then divert most of those same forces to the west to fight the French and British afterwards instead of having to park on the new German-Soviet frontier. Before the pact the Western Allies probably thought that they had time, the pact was announced and concluded ONE WEEK before the invasion of Poland.

Now there is another way to get around the matter of German border defences and guard divisions along the Franco-German border... violate Belgian and possibly even Dutch neutrality and attack Germany that way. Which would mean declaring war on Belgium and the Netherlands which would likely result in them joining Germany :LOL:

So as I see it the phony war can be laid at the feet of Belgium's ridiculous wishful thinking desire for neutrality and the intelligence agencies of Britain and France who hadn't seen the Molotov Ribbentrop pact coming.
Hey Mr Aussie. Did you guy's natives ever have strong rebellious tribes. Ala the Apache over here?
 
Say, were there ever relations between the Roman Empire and China and/or Japan?

Because somehow that sounds interesting
 
Say, were there ever relations between the Roman Empire and China and/or Japan?

Because somehow that sounds interesting
Minor contact between the two powers was very limited with each other due to distance and foreign powers that were in the way. It's also quite possible the Roman prisoners taken during the battle of Carrhae ended up in China.
 

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