Religion The ethics of disowning degenerate family members

Lord Invictus said:
Many people of differing political affiliations and religious affiliations use similar words?

Not to mention, the Nazis didn't get their concepts out of nowhere? They came from 19th century theorists and American policy makers.

@worm that walks we should move this to another thread. Where we can discuss Weimar era Germany and its politics, if you wish.

This is off topic.
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Not really interested in the caliber of discussion that would result from taking "cultural marxism" and "sexual bolshevism" seriously. Thanks anyway.
 
The Nazis were also opposed to smoking and Hitler wanted to eventually get rid of meat eating. They were also into national parks and conservation.

So...does that mean anti smoking, veganism, and environmental conservation are bad because the Nazi's supported them?

Notice, the absurdity of such reasoning. I guess to be anti Nazi we should promote putting parking lots over Yellowstone, meat consumption no matter the ethics, and also pop out those Marlboros.

That will show we're sufficiently anti Nazi.
 
Lord Invictus said:
The Nazis were also opposed to smoking and Hitler wanted to eventually get rid of meat eating. They were also into national parks and conservation.

So...does that mean anti smoking, veganism, and environmental conservation are bad because the Nazi's supported them?

Notice, the absurdity of such reasoning. I guess to be anti Nazi we should promote putting parking lots over Yellowstone, meat consumption no matter the ethics, and also pop out those Marlboros.

That will show we're sufficiently anti Nazi.
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Oh but you see, in the worldview of the modern Secular Left, believing in something that the Nazis also believed isn't bad when the Left themselves do it, only when their opponents do so.
 
So...environmentalism, uh unions(vertical to be fair), and welfare policies? Apparently, non leftists must instead support tearing apart the planet, ravaging of workers rights, and no social safety net, and surrender such policies to the left unless they wish to be tarred as Nazis.

I...see. Well that makes sense. That means conservatives and reactionaries are caught in a bind of not actually you know advocating for things their constituents want.

Brilliant politics I must say.
 
Its not also like pederasty and gender confusion(boys in drag) doesn't lead to lasting mental and emotional problems. Degeneracy is by its nature a rotting force, that destroys individuals, families, societies and governments.
 
I mean...smoking culture is kind of passing away, though its got a bit of a revival with vaping.

As for the environment, that's mostly due to hunting and rural conservatives being in extractive industries.

And the modern green movement being composed of middle class leftists.

So...its a bit of a conundrum.
 
Shipmaster Sane said:
How many american rural conservatives are you familiar with more than in passing?
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Grew up with them my whole life. I don't know what area you live in but in the deep south that i'm a part of, Vegans are typically looked at as a bunch of hippie communist trash, and the modern environmentalist movement is typically looked at as a big hoax designed to throttle our economy. Oil and coal is kind of a thing both in texas and kentucky. While many aren't avid pro-smokers, they'd rather it exist than for the government to tell them what to do.
 
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Modern veganism has the connotation of being an upper middle class thing. Of liberals with toofu.

I would say Hastur is right about smoking, most working class rural conservatives aren't going to smoke just because, they don't like it being regulated as that is rather tyrannical. Yeoman spirit of freedom and all.
 
Hastur of Carcosa said:
Grew up with them my whole life. I don't know what area you live in but in the deep south that i'm a part of, Vegans are typically looked at as a bunch of hippie communist trash, and the modern environmentalist movement is typically looked at as a big hoax designed to throttle our economy. Oil and coal is kind of a thing both in texas and kentucky. While many aren't avid pro-smokers, they'd rather it exist than for the government to tell them what to do.
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Right well already we're talking about different things, we've gone from "Environmentalism" to "The modern environmentalist movement".


Lord Invictus said:
Dude, my brother went quail hunting. They have game parks, and its very much its own rural culture. I have a friend who owns a hunting park with quail, he's been very successful.
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Then it's very surprising that you'd say this

Lord Invictus said:
As for the environment, that's mostly due to hunting
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What exactly do you think the relationship is between environmental conservation and hunting?
 
Shipmaster Sane said:
Right well already we're talking about different things, we've gone from "Environmentalism" to "The modern environmentalist movement".
Its amazing how threads can so far in different directions than the OP intended.



Then it's very surprising that you'd say this



What exactly do you think the relationship is between environmental conservation and hunting?
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I mispoke, its more ranching and EPA regulations especially with regards to wetlands.
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I’ve never heard of Sexual Bolshevism before, so I can’t comment on that term, but Cultural Marxism is certainly a real thing and we see it every day.
worm that walks said:
I didn't realize trusting your kids to pick their own sex partners was getting carried away.
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It is getting carried away. Wouldn’t you get concerned if you had a 16 child having sex with a 50 year old? Would you be concerned if your 13 year old child was having sex at all? What if you learned that your 18 year old daughter had over 50 sexual partners? What if you learned your teenaged child was dating someone who was involved in crime or some kind of movement that you thought was terrible?

For some people, the sex of the child’s partner is on the above list. For others it’s race, religion, and/or economic status.

In any case, it is the job of parents to help guide their children as they become young adults. Choosing a mate (including sexual partners) is one of the most important decisions that young people make, so of course parents should care about it and should be rightly upset if they think that their child (even if he or she is a legal adult) is making a bad choice that could ruin their lives.
 
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