Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
Lol i knew they would say some dumb shit like that
Election 2020 Bidening the Trump? Trumping the Biden? The presidential debate thread.
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Lol i knew they would say some dumb shit like that
Floridaman
Well-known member
Was that ever in doubt? To be honest there is no one left to convince, the point is to try to demoralize the other side.
Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
Wallace kept interuping Trump while making sure Biden had all the time to talk.
MelancholicMechanicus
Thought Criminal
The memes are already spicy
Tie.
Honestly, one of the worse debates I've ever seen. With either of them or in my experience of watching debates. And that is a low bar.
Honestly, one of the worse debates I've ever seen. With either of them or in my experience of watching debates. And that is a low bar.
Prince Ire
Section XIII
Trump needed to be far more tactical with his interruptions. A few here and there would work fine, but the constant interruptions actually were counterproductive. The worst moments for Biden were generally when he was able to talk freely.
I don't think this debate will or was even supposed to change the minds of people who have already made up their minds.
The most important thing about this debate is that its finally forced Biden to actually fucking give some policies and not just peddle softball questions from the mainstream media propaganda department before hiding in his basement.
Now he can be attacked on these policies.
As for debate performance I really do think President Trump should remember more specific details so that he can rattle them off when Biden spouts something. Its a weakness of Biden and something that Trump could get extra points on. Otherwise Trump was being Trump the whole time, nothing he said tonight was a real surprise.
I think Chris Wallace did an okay job considering the two people he is moderating (and both are running for the job of most powerful person in the world).
I really think that Biden's camp are going to look at trying to cancel both if not one more of the debates.
President Trump started off stronger but by the end both he and Biden were about at the same level. So its not bad but from a "who won the debate" angle its more of a draw.
Like I said before the main thing this debate did was draw Biden out from cover.
Agreed mostly. Trump can get away with interrupting more because, well, he's Trump. But he overdid it a bit I think and I suspect he may have been trying to rattle Biden.
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On the other hand perhaps President Trump is going 2 for 3 and so helping to make this debate such a shitshow could be part of a larger strategy.
Edit: Keep in mind also that if the goal is to nab undecided voters then most of those won't make that final decision count until election day or at least until after the second debate if they're mailing their vote in.
The second debate is more important and the GOP now has two weeks to hammer Biden on some actual policies.
The most important thing about this debate is that its finally forced Biden to actually fucking give some policies and not just peddle softball questions from the mainstream media propaganda department before hiding in his basement.
Now he can be attacked on these policies.
As for debate performance I really do think President Trump should remember more specific details so that he can rattle them off when Biden spouts something. Its a weakness of Biden and something that Trump could get extra points on. Otherwise Trump was being Trump the whole time, nothing he said tonight was a real surprise.
I think Chris Wallace did an okay job considering the two people he is moderating (and both are running for the job of most powerful person in the world).
I really think that Biden's camp are going to look at trying to cancel both if not one more of the debates.
President Trump started off stronger but by the end both he and Biden were about at the same level. So its not bad but from a "who won the debate" angle its more of a draw.
Like I said before the main thing this debate did was draw Biden out from cover.
Agreed mostly. Trump can get away with interrupting more because, well, he's Trump. But he overdid it a bit I think and I suspect he may have been trying to rattle Biden.
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On the other hand perhaps President Trump is going 2 for 3 and so helping to make this debate such a shitshow could be part of a larger strategy.
Edit: Keep in mind also that if the goal is to nab undecided voters then most of those won't make that final decision count until election day or at least until after the second debate if they're mailing their vote in.
The second debate is more important and the GOP now has two weeks to hammer Biden on some actual policies.
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No, he really...really didn't. Don't get me wrong, he got a lot of good punches. He was too focused on trying to trigger Biden's dementia. He interrupted way too often and when the issue of race came up, Trump should not have stalled, should have re-framed the question, and answered it. Not let Wallace blurt out the Proud Boys.
This was a complete and utter shitshow. Somewhat funny at times, but really frustrating by the end. No one won this debate.
I agree with most of what's here.
I would like to add that I think Trump was trying to trigger Biden's dementia. And although he did, there were so many interruptions that it actually made it more difficult to remember when Biden was starting to fumble. What we learned today is that Biden is not going to be a push-over when it comes to direct attacks and his dementia. Not surprising, his team has probably been prepping him for weeks, if not months.
I would also say that in addition to Biden being forced to stake out policies, two that were very much against what the Socialists in the party wanted, Biden was more than willing to interrupt and argue with Trump. That's fortunate for Trump, as that prevents Biden from seizing the high ground in the debates. The DNC will still try and claim it, impart because Wallace had to address Trump more than Biden. Still, Biden was no angel.
And most importantly, now that Biden has those statements out there, Trump can press him on them in the next debates. Because Biden had very little good to say in terms of answers. Refused to answer about packing the court, outright denied the obvious fact that his son took money, was forced to admit his son had a drug problem, and most of his answers were confusing and poorly shaped.
There was just so much going on that it made it hard for that to stand out. Overall a tie, but if Trump is able to prepar for his next debate and show more restraint, he could help move the needle more in his direction.
Aaand the Left is focusing in on his poor response to the race question. It's clearly an attempt to undermine him with minorities, but if that's all they're really able to hit him on, they must not be feeling very confident. In fact, come to think of it, that was the one of two subjects that Trump did not respond too well on, that were of importance. The first was medical care, which he didn't have a good response to, but neither did Biden. The second was race. Everything else was just petty pissing shots.
No. They're trying to take the closest thing they have to a victory and proof of Biden's competency and running away with it. Dementia patients can have good days and bad days. This might have been a good day, it might have been an okay day, or it might have been a bad day. Given the results, I'm guessing it was one of the two. Letting Biden go out for another two rounds is not a good strategy if you can avoid it. Because Biden has to win all three debates in terms of mental fortitude. Trump only has to win once.
That said, I don't think they can pull out now. That last debate was such a shitshow, Biden can't declare himself the victor. He proved to swing voters that he's no more capable, coherent, tempered, or competent than Trump is. Apart from a few good punches from Trump, a solid blow on Trump by Wallace, and maybe one half-decent punch from Biden, neither did well this debate.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
I don’t think any medicine no matter how much money those billionaires got, can stop his dementia, otherwise it would have been cured a LONG time ago alongside many other diseases that managed to kill rich people
Floridaman
Well-known member
This is interesting, I can’t say I expected this from Telemundo.
Now, that IS interesting. And barring any sort of troll attack or really shitty polling practices...that's NOT a good sign for the Democrats.
Hispanic and Black support for Trump has Dems panicking and trying to pretend they don't exist in meaningful numbers.
MrBirthday
Agent of Catgirl Genocide
What I've read is that although neither side won the debate, Biden probably came off a bit worse because it damaged the image of him his campaign is trying to present.
This was not a Trump Biden tie. For one simple reason. Biden fell into the trap Trump set for him. At first you may not see it. But you must look at what Trump actually accomplished. At several points in the debate Trump got Biden to make a few deliberate statements. Statement that will show up in the next political ads. Juxtaposed to what he has said at various times over the last few months and years. Trump got Biden to lie to the American people on camera and it was glorious.
Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
Bidens flip flop on the Green new deal was hilarious.