When there's little option but to go in and risk your life and there's not much time, is it still "crazy"?

[CarlManvers2019]

This is stuff I sorta regularly hear when it comes to guys referring to characters in fiction "You're crazy! If you go out there you die!" what is missed out on is "We'll die even if we don't go out there! It will come for us! and I have to save her!" and "No one else is around and I don't have a phone and she'll die in less than a minute!" and so on

It's not as if the character going in even on a regular day is doing weird shit like speaking past the 4th wall or being weird AF and baking a million pancakes for someone to land on or go off

Or have zero regret for killing someone and acting as if it's completely normal thing to do or think it'd be awesome worship an eldritch horror or enter some fighting tournament less because they need the money to pay for someones surgery and more because they really want good fights and to be a winner

Is it really crazy to NOT just go and freeze up, cower and/or run away screaming(probably without attention to direction)?

@Val the Moofia Boss
Remember what you said about how insulting the whole Gentle Criminal backstory was? Like the part of "wait for a professional" even if you don't know if a professional is around or not and point is you gotta do SOMETHING at the very least

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

This is stuff I sorta regularly hear when it comes to guys referring to characters in fiction "You're crazy! If you go out there you die!"

There might be an element of lazy writing involved, where the writer is trying to very quickly (and lazily) make the protagonist look astoundingly brave and standout in their world... by making everyone else dumb ("oh my gosh you're so brave and amazing for doing this simple thing!"). Also a lazy attempt to ramp up the stakes.

Or have zero regret for killing someone and acting as if it's completely normal thing to do or think it'd be awesome worship an eldritch horror or enter some fighting tournament less because they need the money to pay for someones surgery and more because they really want good fights and to be a winner

I guess that ties into modern America's/The West's "cult of the badass", aka the glorification/normalization of violence in pop culture. Watching/playing as/reading about a badass warrior who kills people and looks cool while doing so is appealing, so the writers create such characters and stories and don't really question what the implications of their story. They just take "kill bad guys to be cool" for granted.

Is it really crazy to NOT just go and freeze up, cower and/or run away screaming(probably without attention to direction)?

Admittedly, people who live in 1st world, modern 21st century societies are heavily domesticated. They live in comfy houses (not made by them) that are heated/cooled with water and electricity and gas supplied to them without thinking about. They can stuff themselves with food and never have to raise their own lifestock and then do the grim task of butchering said lifestock for food. People rarely, if ever, are confronted by death, as ambulances and funeral homes isolate death from sight. War is an abstract, divorced reality you only see brief, heavily edited glimpses of in a newspaper. People just aren't used to violence or death in their daily lives, so I'd imagine seeing it happen for real right in front of you could be shocking and terrifying. But I wouldn't generalize and say that everyone would freeze up and flee. You hear reports all the time of people who ran into fires or tried to stop a shooter. So it's not crazy.

@Val the Moofia Boss
Remember what you said about how insulting the whole Gentle Criminal backstory was? Like the part of "wait for a professional" even if you don't know if a professional is around or not and point is you gotta do SOMETHING at the very least

The modern slave mentality might be at play here. From since kindergarten, people have been indoctrinated to: get up, go to school, sit down and do as your told and be quiet for 8 hours, go home, do your assigned tasks (homework), rinse and repeat. And then once you leave school, you are expected to perform the same routine at work until the day you retire. If you don't do as your told, you need to be disciplined and/or put on "meds" that alter your brain chemistry and girlify/pacify you. You're not supposed to do a task you weren't assigned to, or be slacking off from your assigned tasks. So when there is a problem that isn't your problem, people are supposed to be indifferent and just sit around waiting until the officially designated people come in and do said task.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

@Val the Moofia Boss
I’m honestly annoyed by the number of people who obsess over falling for it, in part that’s why I am annoyed with Batman and Shirou Emiya fans and their repeatedly going on about “insanity” and “distorted” stuff

Killing aside, I was talking about other stuff that’d truly warrant the term “crazy” which involves doing stuff unnecessarily and possibly being a sociopath to varying extents.

You can’t exactly be called normal if you fight for the thrill over money and a good cause.

Honestly reminds me of the whole Bystander Syndrome thing.....I’ve heard in a psychology class what breaks it for others is watching one guy deciding to actually help instead of just watching