Culture The Elites, the Occult, and the Little Green Men

[Certified_Heterosexual]

In 2017, the New York Times dropped a glowing writeup of Harry Reid's now-defunct $22 million UFO research program:

For years, the program investigated reports of unidentified flying objects, according to Defense Department officials, interviews with program participants and records obtained by The New York Times. It was run by a military intelligence official, Luis Elizondo, on the fifth floor of the Pentagon’s C Ring, deep within the building’s maze.

The shadowy program — parts of it remain classified — began in 2007, and initially it was largely funded at the request of Harry Reid, the Nevada Democrat who was the Senate majority leader at the time and who has long had an interest in space phenomena. Most of the money went to an aerospace research company run by a billionaire entrepreneur and longtime friend of Mr. Reid’s, Robert Bigelow, who is currently working with NASA to produce expandable craft for humans to use in space.

On CBS’s “60 Minutes” in May, Mr. Bigelow said he was “absolutely convinced” that aliens exist and that U.F.O.s have visited Earth.

Truly bizarre stuff. Harry Reid diverted enough money to fully fund President Trump's border wall to his kooky friends trying to "speak with extraterrestrials." Why would someone like Reid risk tarnishing his reputation by diverting money to something as absurd as UFO research? Why would the New York Times, the preferred paper everywhere of Skeptical (TM) liberals who MOTHERFUCKING LOVE SCIENCE, deliver such a friendly writeup to the government pissing away 22 million dollars on tin-foil hat conspiracies?

Reid's interest in this stuff isn't isolated. When John Podesta isn't preoccupied with [REDACTED], he never misses a chance to passionately call for the full disclosure of all US Government files related to UFOs:



Even Hillary has jumped in on the fun!

But it is her unusual knowledge about extraterrestrials that has struck a small but committed cohort of voters.

Mrs. Clinton has vowed that barring any threats to national security, she would open up government files on the subject, a shift from President Obama, who typically dismisses the topic as a joke. Her position has elated U.F.O. enthusiasts, who have declared Mrs. Clinton the first “E.T. candidate.”

An even more bizarre moment of realization comes when you take a step back and remember that all this is getting published in the New York Times. This is indeed, a fawning article about UFO-ology in the federal government. It also flat-out said that there a ton of intelligent, reasonable people in the Pentagon and the Capitol who believe we're being visited by aliens. Which is a fucking bombshell, if true. Seriously, you're telling me that there are general officers in the Pentagon who believe in ayylmaos traveling hundreds of light years to core out cow anuses and molest random people? Senators I can believe—Congress is full of idiots—but senior military men?

Also, the account of the two Navy pilots who encountered something in 2004, is spooky and strange. They seem like level-headed fighter jocks, but the one is very specific in his description of what he saw and what happened.

Bizarre pet theories about extraterrestrials, UFO's, and interdimensional beings aren't exclusive to the Washington political elite:

“Many people in Silicon Valley have become obsessed with the simulation hypothesis, the argument that what we experience as reality is in fact fabricated in a computer; two tech billionaires have gone so far as to secretly engage scientists to work on breaking us out of the simulation.”

The two billionaires (Elon Musk is a prime suspect) are convinced that they’ll emerge out of this drab illusion into a more shining reality, lit by a brighter and more beautiful star.

The article goes on, and points out the similarities between 'simulation theory' and the Gnosticism that's been a core part of every occult tradition spanning from the Greek Mystery cults, to the Freemasons, to Alistair Crowley:

Kabbalist mysticists, Descartes with his deceiving demon, and Zhuangzi in his butterfly dream have all questioned the reality of their sense-experiences, but this isn’t a private, solipsistic hallucination; in the simulation hypothesis, reality is a prison for all of us. Its real antecedents are the Gnostics, an early Christian sect who believed that the physical universe was the creation of the demiurge, Samael or Ialdaboath, sometimes figured as a snake with the head of a lion, a blind and stupid god who creates his false world in imperfect imitation of the real Creator. This world is a distorted mirror, an image; in other words, a kind of software.

And speaking of the occult, did you know that it plays a key role in the modern history of UFOology?

The first picture is a drawing made by occultist Alistair Crowley of an entity he had invoked repeatedly in 1918 and called "Lam." The second picture is a standard "grey alien" allegedly seen by an abductee.

Crowley's drawing of "Lam"

Artist's rendition of a Gray Alien

28 years after Crowley's invocation of "Lam," L Ron Hubbard and Jack Parsons (rocket scientist, founder of the government's top secret Jet Propulsion Laboratory, and devoted adherent of Crowley's Thelema occult religion) were hard at work in the California desert invoking an archetypal entity known as "Moonchild". Within months, sightings of "flying discs" and "little green men" began popping up all over west coast of the United States.

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So, what is the takeaway here? There isn't one, really. The way I see it, there are 4 possibilities:

1) It was all a bullshit boondoggle, a way for Harry Reid to spread around some patronage money while keeping some crony employed on a make-work project where he wouldn't get in the way of anything important.

2) Everyone involved is deadly serious. There really have been lots of encounters with strange phenomena, to the point that it is scaring some people in the USG shitless. (Whether said phenomena are spacemen or unexplained natural phenomena is somewhat immaterial.)

3) This is part of the wackadoo cult behavior of broken, shitty, powerful pedophiles, one that traces its ideological lineage back to Theosophy, Thelema, and various occult mystery religions all the way back to the ancient Gnostics.

4) This is a calculated leak designed to prep us for something big coming down the pike, real (which I doubt) or fake. I'm not a fan of the various One World Government conspiracy theories, since our elites are demonstrably too stupid to carry out any wide-ranging conspiracy. However, it is kind of a fun thought experiment. Could a fake announcement of alien contact be used to bust down national borders, instituting the final stage of GloboCorp rule?

I'd like to take a step back and say that I don't believe in UFO visitations or the purported powers of the occult. However, anyone who's ever researched CIA psyops, elite pedophile rings, or the spiritual views of our ruling elites quickly starts noticing some disturbing coincidences. I will flesh out some of these connections and how they may or may not relate to UFOs in a later post. For now, I'm going to grab a coffee and hopefully watch this thread deteriorate into a total shitshow.

 

[Deleted member 88]

Didn’t take you for a YTer.

Anyways, my personal take is openness to the demonic hypothesis. I can see it’s role in the end times. “Aliens” come with a new gospel that explicitly rejects Jesus Christ and back up the Beast of the Sea.

At the same time...it’s part and parcel of something I like to call Conspiracianity-that is a large collection of blogs, websites, and so forth that emphasize demonic powers everywhere and in everything and ignore the power of Jesus and the joy He brings. When I was into conspiracy theories in high school, I was very deep into that.

I’m not opposed to the idea of alien life, both due to the Drake Equation and the same sort of faith as CS Lewis. As well as a great many Christians who are being anti science to the extent they deny heliocentrism because science is of the devil yo, sort of “thinking”. At the same time, there is a lot of fishy business going on with UFOs.

As for Aleister Crowley, well I don’t think anyone should speak to those on the other side of the veil. Who knows who might answer the phone?

 

[Certified_Heterosexual]

Didn’t take you for a YTer.

I don't know what a YTer is. Do you mean a YouTuber? I don't have a YouTube channel.

 

[Deleted member 88]

I remember YT being filled with videos about the content you bring up here last decade. So it reminded me of that.

 

[Certified_Heterosexual]

As for my opinion, I'm afraid it's pretty prosaic. Like I said, I'm not an occultist or UFOlogist, just interested in all things weird and offbeat. I don't think we've been visited by ETs, and while I think the Rare Earth hypothesis has a lot of merit I'm not beholden to its assumptions and don't write off the possibility that there is other intelligent life "out there somewhere."

But this isn't about me.

The elites are interested in UFOs for the usual reason that otherwise smart secular people end up falling for the idea that your horoscope can predict your fate or that you can be healed of cancer by sleeping under a green crystal or that you can live off of sunlight and no food if you do enough raja yoga: these insane superstitions are eruptions of their repressed religious instincts past the skeptical barriers of their conscious mind and it's nominal worldview. Carl Jung, were he still alive, would have instantly recognized these things as the spontaneous compensations of the unconscious mind for an imbalanced conscious mind. Since the elites can't bring themselves to renounce that view and embrace traditional attitudes due to the social ostracism they are threatened with (look at the criticism Peter Thiel took for being mildly involved with a bunch of NRx nerds; imagine what would have been done to him if he had turned out to be a Latin Mass sedevacantist like Mel Gibson) they end up clinging to something that promises to deliver similar results in a more politically palatable fashion.

The best example of this the simulationist nonsense that Elon Musk is into: simulation theory is literally the most anti-materialistic metaphysics possible—a theory that says that the world and everything in it is, not matter, not even energy, but just data in something else entirely—and that "something else", whatever it might truly be, is the real real world. It should be obvious that this idea, which implies that the empirical, sense-perceptible world we inhabit, is not real in a radical and comprehensive sense, is totally contrary to the spirit of scientific endeavor as it has existed in the West since the 16th century; illusory universes are the sort of thing Hindu mystics who never cut their fingernails and who sleep on mats woven from thorns believe in. But the repression of religious instinct has caught the oh-so-prideful Johnny Secular, and now he is punished by being subjected to the delusion that there in something more valuable in groveling in front of a postmodern idol of Roko's Basilisk than in genuflecting before the altar and tabernacle of Jesus Christ.

"The more they called themselves philosophers, the stupider they became."

More on the implausibility of the ET explanation for UFO phenomena: read anything by Jacques Vallée, a French computer scientist and entrepreneur who has been investigating this for decades, and is basically the only sane UFOlogist out there.

As for Aleister Crowley, well I don’t think anyone should speak to those on the other side of the veil. Who knows who might answer the phone?

The other explanation for the UFO phenomenon is that they're literally demons, bro. I know there's an Orthodox priest who was very big on that contention. I might add another post when I research more.

 

[worm that walks]

The greys got introduced to popular culture by Betty and Barney Hill who probably picked them up from a half remembered episode of The Outer Limits. Governments were interested in UFOs for three reasons. One is that enemy spy planes get reported as UFOs. Another is that their own experimental craft can be passed off as space ships and mixed in with nonsense to obscure civilian spotting. And the last is that government officials are like other people and some of them believe in spacemen. Being a politician or a general doesn't make you immune to weird beliefs.

The drawing of Lam isn't really that much more similar to a grey than any number of big headed gnomes and similar mythological types, and the aliens of popular culture don't really resemble anything from Thelema or hermetic magic in general. Not that Crowley wouldn't have cashed in on the UFO craze had he been alive during it. The man was a grifter first and foremost.

UFO sightings predate Parson's and company. What specifically gets kicked off is the saucer craze, which probably owes more to Cold War paranoia than than the Babalon Working. UFOs in the 19th century tended to be spun as the work of mad inventors or strange little bearded dwarfs, figures from the popular imagination of the time. The ones from the early cold war were eerie but benevolent Space Brothers who wanted world peace. Then in the 1960s and 70s they become weird scifi horror monsters who kidnap people. They change as the popular imagination does because they are products of the popular imagination.

 

[Sailor.X]

The greys got introduced to popular culture by Betty and Barney Hill who probably picked them up from a half remembered episode of The Outer Limits. Governments were interested in UFOs for three reasons. One is that enemy spy planes get reported as UFOs. Another is that their own experimental craft can be passed off as space ships and mixed in with nonsense to obscure civilian spotting. And the last is that government officials are like other people and some of them believe in spacemen. Being a politician or a general doesn't make you immune to weird beliefs.

The drawing of Lam isn't really that much more similar to a grey than any number of big headed gnomes and similar mythological types, and the aliens of popular culture don't really resemble anything from Thelema or hermetic magic in general. Not that Crowley wouldn't have cashed in on the UFO craze had he been alive during it. The man was a grifter first and foremost.

UFO sightings predate Parson's and company. What specifically gets kicked off is the saucer craze, which probably owes more to Cold War paranoia than than the Babalon Working. UFOs in the 19th century tended to be spun as the work of mad inventors or strange little bearded dwarfs, figures from the popular imagination of the time. The ones from the early cold war were eerie but benevolent Space Brothers who wanted world peace. Then in the 1960s and 70s they become weird scifi horror monsters who kidnap people. They change as the popular imagination does because they are products of the popular imagination.

The Greys actually show up in Celtic Folklore as a type of evil Fairy. I read the accounts they are described as looking exactly like Greys.

 

[Navarro]

The Greys actually show up in Celtic Folklore as a type of evil Fairy. I read the accounts they are described as looking exactly like Greys.

Not to mention that the "abduction narrative" matches up uncannily well with medieval stories about captivity by the fairies. Which suggests either some intelligence behind these scenarios, an archetype in the collective unconscious, or both.

 

[Deleted member]

The Greys actually show up in Celtic Folklore as a type of evil Fairy. I read the accounts they are described as looking exactly like Greys.

That would probably be where Crowley, an awful, evil man, got his own idea from.

 

[Sailor.X]

Not to mention that the "abduction narrative" matches up uncannily well with medieval stories about captivity by the fairies. Which suggests either some intelligence behind these scenarios, an archetype in the collective unconscious, or both.

Indeed it is genetic memory of what happened all to often in the past.

That would probably be where Crowley, an awful, evil man, got his own idea from.

Yep that would explain why he did what he did.

 

[Deleted member 88]

As a Christian, I do believe occult powers are real. They’re just demonic.

Do our elites partake in such rituals? Well many would say so.

In the end, the human elites of this world don’t actually rule it. There is a god of this world, and his servants. If the elites partake in occultism, then they are communing with the lord of the air.

(which to be fair makes a lot of sense).