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There is one major flaw with this design that would be an easy fix IMO, Basically separate the artillery onto a forward facing trailer incase the truck breaks down or is damaged another one could hitch up.
 
Carrot of Truth said:
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There is one major flaw with this design that would be an easy fix IMO, Basically separate the artillery onto a forward facing trailer incase the truck breaks down or is damaged another one could hitch up.
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Eh.... That would add weight and volume, hurting airmobility, which is one of main reasons for having something like that at all.
As it is, it "double uses" the suspension of the light truck for the gun. Comparing to M119, a conventional modern 105, not having a separate towing carriage may be shaving off something close to 800 kg of weight.
The extra redundancy may well be worth it for some third world customer expecting to drive it around a lot with subpar maintenance, but for the application US has it, expeditionary warfare, the reduction in size and weight is the main point, and by the time vehicles breaking down would be an issue one would expect either the fight to be done or 155's to arrive anyway.
If need be the whole truck can be towed too.
 
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Marduk said:
Eh.... That would add weight and volume, hurting airmobility, which is one of main reasons for having something like that at all.
As it is, it "double uses" the suspension of the light truck for the gun.
The extra redundancy may well be worth it for some third world customer expecting to drive it around a lot with subpar maintenance, but for the application US has it, expeditionary warfare, the reduction in size and weight is the main point, and by the time vehicles breaking down would be an issue one would expect either the fight to be done or 155's to arrive anyway.
If need be the whole truck can be towed too.
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Most of the countries building this style of artillery aren't building these for air mobility but as cheaper self propelled guns.
 
Carrot of Truth said:
Most of the countries building this style of artillery aren't building these for air mobility but as cheaper self propelled guns.
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Yeah...
But USA is not most countries.
And if you do that for cheapness, you also may want to use a bigger truck, and either slap a much more effective 155 on it (like Ukrainian Bohdana) or use the spare space to carry ammo for it too.
This thing is new because it includes some fancy hi tech recoil management system that's certainly not cheap and allows the Humvee to take the recoil of a 105 at all.
 
Buba said:
I don't think that I've ever seen a trailer mouted version SPG.
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Any quick deployment artillery carriage is, in effect, a very compact trailer. Of course you don't want to put an artillery cannon on a "normal" high trailer, the recoil of firing at low angles would knock it over because of high center of gravity.
 
Carrot of Truth said:
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There is one major flaw with this design that would be an easy fix IMO, Basically separate the artillery onto a forward facing trailer incase the truck breaks down or is damaged another one could hitch up.
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So...a normal artillery piece.
That is how the 155s and the like work you know.
This is a LOT more mobile then those, and allows for immediate change of location faster then normal artillery if need be.
Carrot of Truth said:
Most of the countries building this style of artillery aren't building these for air mobility but as cheaper self propelled guns.
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And most countries have a land border with ejo they are fighting. The US has to get things for Air mobile units that are quicker.
The 101st can have this instead if the 155s because it can be quicker to move around.
Same with 82nd.
 
Marduk said:
Yeah...
But USA is not most countries.
And if you do that for cheapness, you also may want to use a bigger truck, and either slap a much more effective 155 on it (like Ukrainian Bohdana) or use the spare space to carry ammo for it too.
This thing is new because it includes some fancy hi tech recoil management system that's certainly not cheap and allows the Humvee to take the recoil of a 105 at all.
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I just used that specific image as a palceholder for that sort of artillery in general rather than that specific gun.
 
Carrot of Truth said:
I just used that specific image as a palceholder for that sort of artillery in general rather than that specific gun.
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Except that "this specific image" is a rather unique artillery system, that is 105 mounted on a light truck, allowed by the new recoil system.
Normally guns like this are on larger trucks, like MOBAT, or further in the past, a tracked chassis even, like Priest and Abbot.
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A "trailer" with such is just reinventing the normal gun carriage, which is cheaper and switchable between different towing vehicles, but at the price of extra weight, worse mobility and deployment time.
 
The South African Army is doing some large (for them) scale military exercises at the moment and publicizing some cool and pretty pictures of their military equipment (that is still operable) including their Gripens, Attack Helicopters and what I think are the coolest looking, their somewhat unique armored vehicles.

Olifant Main Battle Tanks and Rooikat Wheeled Tank Destroyers.

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And a convoy of Ratel IFV's I think?

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Not an expert on ID'ing military vehicles, so feel free to correct. Just thought it'd be neat to share.

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