Soros pledges billion dollars to university network fund to fight rise of nationalist sentiments

[CarlManvers2019]

I honestly think he imagines Muslims just need to be warmly welcomed and they will integrate into his post modern popperian liberal utopia.

And they won’t use the tolerance and “compassion” of the open society to impose their own.

Too much romanticism, too little actual interaction or observation

Honestly, Globalism sorta sounds like a very romanticised and “worldly” version of near unrestricted capitalism between countries

Values-Wise, Muslims primarily from Middle East or African nations are a sort of OCP that isn’t really being acknowledged as being Outside-Context

 

[Deleted member 88]

Yeah. It’s sort of assumed they “are just like us” in that they at heart have liberal values and goals.

So when conservatives and rightists say “look these people don’t share our values, they will impose their own” liberals get upset-the assumption is these immigrants have the same cultural paradigms westerners do, and that it’s bad and hateful to say otherwise.

Really, honestly, truly? Do you want to know what I think?

I don’t think liberals really take Islam seriously.

Like not as a threat-they don’t treat it with respect as an actual religion. With a history and over a thousand years of its own norms, customs and paradigmatic mores.

Their brown skinned and the mean right wingers don’t like them-so they are oppressed and just need compassionate treatment and free stuff.

Like, it’s extremely patronizing attitude.

“ISIS terrorists don’t know the Qu’ran”, “or “Islam preaches equality for women”-it’s just stunning really.

The arrogance to assume what a religion says. Or what it’s followers are supposed to practice.

That goes to a broader worldview liberals and leftists have.

They don’t take religion or culture seriously. Religion is “just the sigh of an oppressed creature” or “culture is just food choices and a way to form in groups”.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I think there is also some sort of assumption that they would have to deal with market forces and eventually settle down behavior wise in order to focus on getting work and moving up economically like previous generations of immigrants

That is more true for South Americans, but they don’t exactly share a fanaticism or hatred for “sodomy” and are more likely to actually buy said “sodomy” in public or engage with buying it legally

 

[Cherico]

Yeah. It’s sort of assumed they “are just like us” in that they at heart have liberal values and goals.

So when conservatives and rightists say “look these people don’t share our values, they will impose their own” liberals get upset-the assumption is these immigrants have the same cultural paradigms westerners do, and that it’s bad and hateful to say otherwise.

Really, honestly, truly? Do you want to know what I think?

I don’t think liberals really take Islam seriously.

Like not as a threat-they don’t treat it with respect as an actual religion. With a history and over a thousand years of its own norms, customs and paradigmatic mores.

Their brown skinned and the mean right wingers don’t like them-so they are oppressed and just need compassionate treatment and free stuff.

Like, it’s extremely patronizing attitude.

“ISIS terrorists don’t know the Qu’ran”, “or “Islam preaches equality for women”-it’s just stunning really.

The arrogance to assume what a religion says. Or what it’s followers are supposed to practice.

That goes to a broader worldview liberals and leftists have.

They don’t take religion or culture seriously. Religion is “just the sigh of an oppressed creature” or “culture is just food choices and a way to form in groups”.

do you honestly expect people who cant respect their own culture to be capable of respecting other peoples culture?

 

[CarlManvers2019]

do you honestly expect people who cant respect their own culture to be capable of respecting other peoples culture?

Respect? They actively “hate” it because it’s trendy to be “rebellious”

 

[7 Gold Eye Heals the Wise]

New York City-a place where everything is permitted

Except guns & chicken sandwiches.

Family values? Nah son, you're actually a communist infiltrator, you can't trick me fucker

ConCom: Conservative Communism.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

ConCom: Conservative Communism.

Goulache Communism? The family is second to the state in-terms of loyalties though and practically all businessmen are in some way owned by the state or heavily connected, those who aren’t run afowl of things

 

[Deleted member 88]

I’m totally a reactionary socialist-for nobles and the proletariat!(not really but go with the joke).

*Marx actually mentions this, it was apparently nobles and other people of the old order condemning industrialization and the problems with it.

Apparently various classes in society all condemned or spoke about the issues of the industrial revolution.

So “conservative socialism” is not an oxymoron. It existed in some form in the 19th century.