Culture Social Justice Warriors and Fictional Didacticism

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I was reading this article, and it peeled up an old scab of mine.

As always, SJWs fail to grasp what people actually mean when they say that they like a story because it’s “apolitical”. What we actually mean by that is we prefer stories where the moral isn’t loaded into a bunker buster and dropped directly on our heads.

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SJWs have no appreciation for subtlety at all. They love childish, straightforward didacticism, and they like it when stories tell them what to believe.

Good stories are value-agnostic. They present a setting and its characters neutrally and they invite us to come to our own conclusions as to who is right or wrong. SJW fiction doesn’t do that. SJW fiction crafts a big, heavy-handed aesop and tries to teach the audience a moral lesson with it. Even in third-person omniscient, the narrator is on the side of the writer’s army of diversity tokens and all but demands that we heed the central message and obey. To read this dreck is to experience moral belittlement. You’re basically told, in no uncertain terms, that if you don’t meet the narrative’s standards, you’re a lesser person for it.

When you pick up the average manga, you don’t experience that same sense of inner turmoil, generally because the subject matter is presented in a neutral way and the moral doesn’t punch you in the face and the balls over and over and over again. For the record, that’s what people actually mean by “too political”.

SJWs subscribe to a thing called Critical Theory.

Critical theory - Wikipedia

They have this notion that norms and values are encoded into literally everything we read and watch, and they ought to be picked apart on that basis. Say you, as an author, choose to depict a 1950s housewife going about chores. A normal person would see this as a relatively apolitical thing, but to an SJW, it’s extremely political. She’s part of an oppressive hierarchy that extracts her labor. Kid kicking a ball down a street? His school’s sports program is underfunded. Homeless gay guy? He couldn’t find work due to discrimination. The SJW autistically filters everything through a moral and political lens. Normal people just view these characters and their affairs as set dressing and don’t give a shit what the “deeper implications” are.

SJW stories are not really stories at all, but propaganda pieces. The main purpose is not to tell a story, but to pedantically change the viewer’s values to align with those of the author.

Didacticism - Wikipedia

That’s why SJWs unironically write comics like this.

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All the immersion is immediately broken. Writing like this snaps the reader out of the story. A lot of people read fiction to escape reading the fucking headlines. Being constantly reminded of the world we already inhabit is an experience that is most unwelcome.

The trouble with centering fiction solely on the didactic is that it ignores all the other qualities that fiction can possess, such as aesthetic value. This is actually a very, very old debate that has been raging in artistic and literary circles for well over a hundred years.

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None of this is new. In fact, Edgar Allan Poe wrote a whole essay about it:

The Heresy of the Didactic | Academy of American Poets

It has been assumed, tacitly and avowedly, directly and indirectly, that the ultimate object of all Poetry is Truth. Every poem, it is said, should inculcate a moral; and by this moral is the poetical merit of the work to be adjudged. We Americans especially have patronized this happy idea; and we Bostonians, very especially, have developed it in full. We have taken it into our heads that to write a poem simply for the poem's sake, and to acknowledge such to have been our design, would be to confess ourselves radically wanting in the true Poetic dignity and force:—but the simple fact is, that, would we permit ourselves to look into our own souls, we should immediately there discover that under the sun there neither exists nor can exist any work more thoroughly dignified—more supremely noble than this very poem—this poem per se—this poem which is a poem and nothing more—this poem written solely for the poem's sake.

The other problem with SJW politicization of fiction is that it leaves no room for truly transgressive art. Manga is chock-full of transgression. If you've ever read Berserk, Elfen Lied, Ubel Blatt, or Narutaru, you've probably noticed that some manga isn't for kids, nor is it written to pander to adult children who can't handle a little gore, profanity, or political incorrectness.

SJW fiction is hilariously whitewashed. From top to bottom, the SJW attitude influences everything from the setting, to characterization, to the mannerisms and dialogue employed by the cast. You will not see an SJW author write de Sade's 120 Days of Sodom, or Armando Iannuci's The Thick of It, because their little hearts can't handle it. Their characters are too nice. SJW authors don't know how to write true cruelty or aggression.



SJW fiction never comes across as genuine, simply because their stories are not populated by people, but by saccharine-sweet, moralizing caricatures spewing aesops. The SJW's goal is to show you examples of good behavior in the hopes that it makes you a better person. What part of that has anything to do with telling a story? If you want to be a real author, if you want to tell a real story, you have to be willing to write a character who's a sweaty nutsack. You have to be willing to write deeply flawed, cruel, vain, self-centered, profane characters who make the audience uncomfortable at first blush, but then achieve a certain familiarity through their sheer vulgarity. SJWs cannot do that. The best they can do is print out a cardboard stand-up of a character with political slogans etched in the margins. That's why their shit is so fucking boring.

The way SJWs perceive fiction, the author has full control over the contents of a fictional work. Therefore, to depict something is to endorse it. After all, if you didn't condone it, you wouldn't depict it.



If we assume that this line of thinking is true, then authors who depict torture are torturers, and those who depict rape are rapists. After all, you had full control over the story. Why wouldn't you show the audience something nice like fluffy, happy bunnies, instead?

Imagine that Frodo and the gang reach Mordor, and they find the Uruks playing with Lincoln Logs. They're mighty cheerful, and they bid that the adventurers come play with them. Where would the conflict come from, then? How would the author illustrate that the baddies are actually bad unless they were willing to show them engaged in violent, cruel acts?

SJWs don't know how to write clear villains. Or, more accurately, they seem to lack a fully developed concept of evil. They're bleeding hearts par excellence. Villains aren't evil, they're just misunderstood. In the postmodern, post-Marxist concept of the world, a villain is just someone who has been tarred by the victor's brush. There are no psychotic injuns who scalp unsuspecting settlers, they're just poor natives fighting against colonial oppressors. Everything is just shades of gray. Most people are wonderful if you just get to know them. Even the most brutal CJNG sicario has a mother, and maybe a sister, and maybe they were a good kid, once. No one is beyond reform. No one is beyond saving, right?

Wrong. Evil exists. If we refuse to show the audience what evil looks like, it's not going to miraculously stop existing. If your argument against depicting evil acts in stories is that someone might be jerking off to it, or that someone might emulate it, you don't have an argument. You're not a critic, you're a fucking censor.

Superhero fiction is actually a product of censorship, which is why SJWs love it so much. When the Comics Code Authority originally came up with their definitions for what constituted prohibited content, they were specifically targeting illustrated horror mags that were common around the early 20th century.

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This is the actual text of the CCA dating from 1954:

  • Crimes shall never be presented in such a way as to create sympathy for the criminal, to promote distrust of the forces of law and justice, or to inspire others with a desire to imitate criminals.
  • If crime is depicted it shall be as a sordid and unpleasant activity.
  • Policemen, judges, government officials, and respected institutions shall never be presented in such a way as to create disrespect for established authority.
  • Criminals shall not be presented so as to be rendered glamorous or to occupy a position which creates a desire for emulation.
  • In every instance good shall triumph over evil and the criminal punished for his misdeeds.
  • Scenes of excessive violence shall be prohibited. Scenes of brutal torture, excessive and unnecessary knife and gunplay, physical agony, the gory and gruesome crime shall be eliminated.
  • No comic magazine shall use the words "horror" or "terror" in its title.
  • All scenes of horror, excessive bloodshed, gory or gruesome crimes, depravity, lust, sadism, masochism shall not be permitted.
  • All lurid, unsavory, gruesome illustrations shall be eliminated.
  • Inclusion of stories dealing with evil shall be used or shall be published only where the intent is to illustrate a moral issue and in no case shall evil be presented alluringly, nor so as to injure the sensibilities of the reader.
  • Scenes dealing with, or instruments associated with walking dead, torture, vampires and vampirism, ghouls, cannibalism, and werewolfism are prohibited.
  • Profanity, obscenity, smut, vulgarity, or words or symbols which have acquired undesirable meanings are forbidden.
  • Nudity in any form is prohibited, as is indecent or undue exposure.
  • Suggestive and salacious illustration or suggestive posture is unacceptable.
  • Females shall be drawn realistically without exaggeration of any physical qualities.
  • Illicit sex relations are neither to be hinted at nor portrayed. Rape scenes, as well as sexual abnormalities, are unacceptable.
  • Seduction and rape shall never be shown or suggested.
  • Sex perversion or any inference to same is strictly forbidden.
  • Nudity with meretricious purpose and salacious postures shall not be permitted in the advertising of any product; clothed figures shall never be presented in such a way as to be offensive or contrary to good taste or morals.

Boy, sure sounds like an SJW wrote it. Except this wasn't written by SJWs. It was written by fanatical bible-thumpers, their spiritual and intellectual forebears.

Manga was never subject to the CCA. As a result, Manga authors often tackled darker subject matter than their Western counterparts. That's how you can have stories like Akumetsu, which is literally a manga about a vigilante terrorist who goes around murdering corrupt public officials with hand axes and gets away with it because he has tons of clones of himself. The entire point of the manga is the schadenfreude of enjoying watching corrupt motherfuckers and human traffickers squealing and squirming, unable to avert their own demise. Heavy-handed? Absolutely. But far more amoral and graphic than what we're used to.

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Encoded in every SJW argument about fiction is this notion that lowbrow pulp is somehow bad, and we ought to feel ashamed for liking Henry Chinaski or Ignatius Reilly, and it would be much better if we read stories about cultured and educated urbanites trying to rescue the world from the jaws of ignorance and bigotry, like them.

The true appeal of Manga is that, like pulp, it depicts ordinary, warty, vulgar people.

Imagine the kinds of stories that could have been told in comics if the Code never existed. We'd have more Alan Moores, more Garth Ennises, more Frank Millers, more Sam Kieths.

Instead, whiny moral busybodies ruined everything, and they keep trying to ruin things even today.
 
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ShieldWife

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I agree with almost all of this. SJWs are emotionally immature and that is reflected in their flimsy one dimensional storytelling.

I do disagree with one thing though - they do believe in evil and do have villains. Evil are the people who disagree with them - the supposed sexists, racists, homophones, transphobes, etc. Such people are as evil to the SJW as a demon is to a Christian, maybe even more one dimensionally evil since a Christian did write Paradise Lost.

Now, their villains do suck, not only because they are one dimensional, but because they are generally really weak and not scary. The villains exist to be easily knocked down by the Mary Sue SJW stand-in heroes.
 
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Navarro

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Now, their villains do suck, not only because they are one dimensional, but because they are generally really weak and not scary. The villains exist to be easily knocked down by the Mary Sue SJW stand-in heroes.

This is because SJWs fear that, if given any actual depth or made anything other than pathetic bullies, villains will magically make the audience side with them. So bad guys must not only be one-dimensional so that no one is tempted to sympathise with them, they must be lame so that no one is tempted to find them cool.

The result is something that makes the heroes look even more unimpressive.
 
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Circle of Willis

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This is because SJWs fear that, if given any actual depth or made anything other than pathetic bullies, villains will magically make the audience side with them. So bad guys must not only be one-dimensional so that no one is tempted to sympathise with them, they must be lame so that no one is tempted to find them cool.

The result is something that makes the heroes look even more unimpressive.
I don't think they're necessarily wrong on that count. SJW '''''heroes''''' are so odious and/or uninteresting that not only will even one-dimensional villains look better by comparison, but that goes double for any villain who they think they're giving 'monstrous' dialogue & actions to. When a SJW 'creative' tries to create an abominable villain, more often than not, they just end up spawning a character who sounds positively sane, reasonable and even relatable compared to their supposed good guys. I believe this is ultimately just an honest reflection of how warped the thought process of the person behind both really is, as opposed to how the responsible 'creative' thinks they're a good person worthy of being praised (either directly IRL or indirectly through rave reviews for & high sales of their work) for thinking and behaving the way they do.

Exhibit A, that infamous Red Skull speech about the European migrant crisis from five or so years ago. Or exhibit B: for a more recent example, the bully characters & bad guys from High Guardian Spice are more entertaining to watch than the lead 'heroines'.
 

ShieldWife

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Yes, inadvertently they often end up making the heroes look terrible. The heroes are usually also one dimensional, never experience any kind of challenge or growth, and so their actions all seem a bit meaningless. Compare, for example, Rey versus Luke. Especially with female characters, the heroines are often terrible people who treat everybody else like trash, because that is supposedly what strong empowered women are supposed to do.

A cool competent villain could very easily outshine a SJW’s hero and a villain who is at all sympathetic or three dimensional could also end up being more likable than the hero too.

Look at Bor in the comic above. The writers can’t even be bothered to come up with what Bor is actually saying. We don’t even learn if Bor is an Antisemite who dislikes Israel or a Neo-Con who supports Israel :rolleyes:
 

ShieldWife

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What about:

“I am Bor, king of the Aesir!

Men are stronger than women and more logical. Women should be obedient to men!

Wives are more likely to initiate divorces than husbands but also more likely to get custody of children! Men accused of rape are often assumed to be guilty and must prove their innocence! Why is it alright for men to be judged if men commit crime at higher rates than women but it’s not alright to judge black people for committing crime at higher rates than white people?

Also, why does the United States give so much foreign and military aid to Israel and support them so much when they mistreat the Palestinians?”
 

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