SKYNET/Resistance Respect thread.

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The focus would be on SKYNET and the Resistance's technological and weapons capabilities overall.

Industry and economics, technological levels, weapons and so on. For SKYNET the preferred focus is on the original timeline of T1 and T2 but the other movies (aside from Dark Fate) will be accepted.
 
I'll see what I can conjure up from the TV series, but until then, there is this gem.

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God Bless Frank Miller... no sequels for that Skynet timeline.
 
In Season 1 of The Sarah Connor Chronicles, the Future War (flashback/futureflash?) episodes the Resistance guys scene were armed with either the Westinghouse M95A1 Phased Plasma Rifle, or machine guns like the M60 or FN Minimi. And Resistance Terminator Cameron destroyed a rogue Terminator (in the future) with an M79 Grenade Launcher. In the second episode there's a scene where a Resistance Fighter is firing a SMAW rocket launcher at an HK-Aerial.
 
Husky_Khan said:
In Season 1 of The Sarah Connor Chronicles, the Future War (flashback/futureflash?) episodes the Resistance guys scene were armed with either the Westinghouse M95A1 Phased Plasma Rifle, or machine guns like the M60 or FN Minimi. And Resistance Terminator Cameron destroyed a rogue Terminator (in the future) with an M79 Grenade Launcher. In the second episode there's a scene where a Resistance Fighter is firing a SMAW rocket launcher at an HK-Aerial.
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Got anything on youtube or vids?
 
As of T3, it appears that Skynet is rather hilariously bad at coming up with new ideas, it's giant air drones and HK tanks are somewhat crudely and directly upscaled versions of previous human designs, the T800s are glacially slow iterations of human designs, it even used old sample sound files the engineering team left behind for the voices.
It also appears that the only reason the resistance has plasma weapons is because Skynet built plasma weapons for it's human scale skeleton soldiers to use.

Skynet was marching rubber dummies into infiltration missions, seeing them get blasted to pieces, and responding with "???... Why happen???" for quite a good while.


Skynet is a roomba bumping endlessly into table legs.
 
Shipmaster Sane said:
As of T3, it appears that Skynet is rather hilariously bad at coming up with new ideas, it's giant air drones and HK tanks are somewhat crudely and directly upscaled versions of previous human designs, the T800s are glacially slow iterations of human designs, it even used old sample sound files the engineering team left behind for the voices.
It also appears that the only reason the resistance has plasma weapons is because Skynet built plasma weapons for it's human scale skeleton soldiers to use.

Skynet was marching rubber dummies into infiltration missions, seeing them get blasted to pieces, and responding with "???... Why happen???" for quite a good while.


Skynet is a roomba bumping endlessly into table legs.
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The Resistance captured first generation plasma weapons and reverse engineered crude facsimiles of them. Skynet plasma weapons had hundreds to thousands of rounds per power cell. The Resistance at most, 200 or so. So crude and less advanced and based on weapons already in service. Then came Second Generation plasma weapons which were significantly more powerful with greater endurance. SKYNET seemed very basic in its tactics and strategies but technology was clearly where its strength was.
 
Spartan303 said:
The Resistance captured first generation plasma weapons and reverse engineered crude facsimiles of them. Skynet plasma weapons had hundreds to thousands of rounds per power cell. The Resistance at most, 200 or so. So crude and less advanced and based on weapons already in service. Then came Second Generation plasma weapons which were significantly more powerful with greater endurance. SKYNET seemed very basic in its tactics and strategies but technology was clearly where its strength was.
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I'm unconvinced that the origional plasma rifle wasnt some household appliance dramatically scaled up, or engine component scaled down.
Skynet tends to endlessly iterate random things already extant to solve problems, like rather than innovate; it looks for a way something it already has on file might work if scaled up or down, and tends to fail a lot before it realizes what the problem is.


Basically, if Skynet was trying to design a tank, there is a decent chance that the turret would be a perfectly scaled up 100mm bore Glock.
 
Spartan303 said:
Got anything on youtube or vids?
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Here's a reprogrammed Terminator (unknown model, could be a T-600 but more likely an 800 or 888 etc) going rogue or glitching in a Resistance Base. It was armed with an FN Minimi. Earlier in the episode you saw Resistance Fighters with the aforementioned Plasma Rifles and an M60 Machine gun. Derek Reese, the guy in the clip, is armed with a Desert Eagle. Then Cameron comes in and terminates the Terminator with something she fired from her M79 Grenade Launcher.



And here's the bit where an Australian Resistance Member reveals she's a member of a nuclear submarine (USS Jimmy Carter) which makes supply runs between the West Coast and Perth, Australia and due to the lack of skilled Humans, it's piloted by a T-888. You later see him in later episodes and the shoestring submarine operations. She's also toting the M-27 Phased Plasma Rifle which is what the Terminators use, not the reverse engineered gun.

 
Shipmaster Sane said:
I'm unconvinced that the origional plasma rifle wasnt some household appliance dramatically scaled up, or engine component scaled down.
Skynet tends to endlessly iterate random things already extant to solve problems, like rather than innovate; it looks for a way something it already has on file might work if scaled up or down, and tends to fail a lot before it realizes what the problem is.


Basically, if Skynet was trying to design a tank, there is a decent chance that the turret would be a perfectly scaled up 100mm bore Glock.
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This website right here provides some amazing insight into that. SKYNET isn't quite as stupid as you portray them. But they're not this omnipresent Hyper competent AI force either.

futurewarstories.blogspot.com

Weapons of Sci-Fi: The Plasma Weaponry of TERMINATOR

Among the ashes and the skulls of the old world are the fighters of the new blackened and battered world, locked in a deadly battle for ...
futurewarstories.blogspot.com futurewarstories.blogspot.com

This website here also goes more into the setting. Much of it is speculation but its pretty neat and seems to fit.

 
Skynet is smart but slow to adapt, but when it does it usually does so with a mcguffin. A piece of technology to solve a very human problem. It almost never worked as Skynet likely intended. One could say that results were mixed. Take bullets for example. Skynet decided that for whatever reason bullets weren't good enough and decided to create plasma based weapons. It used humans in live experimentation until it perfected its first generation plasma weapons, but in so doing created a situation that was a rallying cry for John Connor and humanity at large. This would be a trend with Skynet through the Cold War and then the Hot War.

The problem for Skynet is that Humanity is more adaptive and creative than it is. According to the links provided by Spartan, Skynet took theoretical human weapons (Plasma) and made them reality and used human experimentation to make it a reality. Humanity quickly captured Plasma weapons, reverse engineered them and built their own bastardized versions that were good enough for the job. And here is another trend of the war with Skynet. Skynet inadvertently supplying the human resistance with the very means to fight it. Had Skynet stuck with projectile weapons but yet built its Terminators and HKs, then the Human resistance would have had a far harder time of it. Bullets cant really hurt a Terminator. And Terminator Resistance, which admittedly has questionable canonicity, point blank states that modern firearms are completely useless against Terminators and HKs.

So Skynet provided the very means to defeat it. Talk about Irony. And when Humanity adapted Skynet was slow in adapting its strategy. Instead it relied on newer Terminator models and HK units and its phase 2 Plasma weapons. These did greatly increase casualties but again humanity adapted and then turned the new weapons against Skynet. Skynet responds with infiltrator models but there is speculation this idea came from human collaborators and not Skynet. Successful to a point, but again humanity adapts. And after years of the war going hot and Skynet reaching a plateau in what was technically capable of building the Human resistance is gaining steam and pushing Skynet back. The AI is power and resource hungry and Humanity has been doing an amazing job of interdicting these resources, leaving Skynet depleted. Humans are also reproducing at a rate greater than it can exterminate: The human sex drive essentially pushed into overdrive in the face of the threat of extermination by the AI. Skyet does a strategic calculus and realizes its not going to win unless it does something to change the situation drastically in its favor.

Skynet then hits on time travel. Something that was apparently a theoretical exercise by DARPA which Skynet made a reality. It's plan wasn't so much ingenious as it was desperate. The first scene in T2 with the Resistance battling the HKs and Terminators is the Resistance attacking the Time displacement center, but this was supposedly a coordinated assault against Skynet central at the same time, forcing the AI to divert resources between its two main facilities. (again this assumption is questionable thanks to Terminator Resistance that goes into the backstory behind this assault.).

But in the end Skynet was defeated. Skynet essentially sucked at war despite having the sum total knowledge of Humanity in the art of war and well...everything. But Skynet did have a vast wealth of technology and sheer scientific knowledge that even 50 years after the war Humanity still barely scratched the surface of.

In conclusion, Skynet was formidable but seriously underestimated Humanity and its will to survive and adaptability. It made a series of tactical and strategic blunders it could not recover from and was eventually destroyed because of it.
 
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