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Additional realistic Axis members in World War II

WolfBear

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Which additional countries could have realistically become Axis members in World War II? Yugoslavia is an obvious candidate for this if the 1941 coup doesn't occur there, as is the Soviet Union if the late 1940 negotiations in regards to this would have actually succeeded:


However, who else could have realistically qualified for this? (Note: Not all eligible countries actually need to be in the Axis simultaneously in this TL or even to be in the Axis at all.) I have previously thought about Poland, but I'm inclined to agree with @sillygoose's argument that if Poland joins the Axis, then a Franco-Anglo-Soviet alliance becomes much more plausible, which in turn makes World War II much less likely to occur in the first place since sparking such a war would very likely be too risky even for the Nazis themselves.

Could Lithuania have become an Axis member? Or perhaps Greece if Mussolini would not have had his own designs on it? Or perhaps Turkey if the Sevres settlement would have actually permanently lasted/survived?

And who else might have realistically qualified for this? China, perhaps, if Nazi Germany chooses it rather than Japan? And who else?
 

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Turkey almost did so in 1942,so yes.
Lithuania could be,if they helped germans invade Poland in 1939.
Greece - no,not worth the effort.
But Iraq supported germans,and if italians fared better they could join Axis,too.Just like Iran.

Another possibiluty - i once read on AH about japaneese noble lady marrying heir of Ethiopia and heling them modernize country.
Dunno,if they join axis,thought - maybe in that case both they and Japan remained neutral?
 

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Turkey almost did so in 1942,so yes.
Lithuania could be,if they helped germans invade Poland in 1939.
Greece - no,not worth the effort.
But Iraq supported germans,and if italians fared better they could join Axis,too.Just like Iran.

Another possibiluty - i once read on AH about japaneese noble lady marrying heir of Ethiopia and heling them modernize country.
Dunno,if they join axis,thought - maybe in that case both they and Japan remained neutral?
We need to pick a nation not many will think of, example Ireland, in 1933 the Blueshirts planned to hold a parade in Dublin but the Irish government remembering Mussolini's March on Rome, and fearing a coup d'état, invoked article 2A of the constitution and banned the parade.

Seems decades later, de Valera told Fianna Fáil politicians that in late summer 1933 he was unsure whether the Irish Army would obey his orders to suppress the perceived threat, or whether the soldiers would support the Blueshirts (who included many ex-soldiers).

So what if the march had gone ahead and they had taken power, a German orientated Ireland in 1939 can cause some trouble to the British.
 

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We need to pick a nation not many will think of, example Ireland, in 1933 the Blueshirts planned to hold a parade in Dublin but the Irish government remembering Mussolini's March on Rome, and fearing a coup d'état, invoked article 2A of the constitution and banned the parade.

Seems decades later, de Valera told Fianna Fáil politicians that in late summer 1933 he was unsure whether the Irish Army would obey his orders to suppress the perceived threat, or whether the soldiers would support the Blueshirts (who included many ex-soldiers).

So what if the march had gone ahead and they had taken power, a German orientated Ireland in 1939 can cause some trouble to the British.
Invaded in month.And germans could not help them.Later british could even genocide irish,and nobody would care.
No,we need somebody who could stand longer.

What about Argentina? only South American country capable of producing medium tanks and planes/not good,but still/
And they buy some Me-109 in OTL.
If they start rearming after 1936,they could become german harbour for a time.
And USA would need not month to crush them,but maybe even year.
Which mean sending american troops to Africa year later.
Which made them less experienced.Which could let germans crush their landing zones,and Allies would stay in Normandy for reat of 1944.
War in Europe would end with glowing muschroom in Berlin,not soviets.
 

WolfBear

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Turkey almost did so in 1942,so yes.
Lithuania could be,if they helped germans invade Poland in 1939.
Greece - no,not worth the effort.
But Iraq supported germans,and if italians fared better they could join Axis,too.Just like Iran.

Another possibiluty - i once read on AH about japaneese noble lady marrying heir of Ethiopia and heling them modernize country.
Dunno,if they join axis,thought - maybe in that case both they and Japan remained neutral?
Do you have more information about the Turkey part here?
 

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Do you have more information about the Turkey part here?
One of scenarios from "Hitler Triumphant" by Peter G.Tsouras,forget which author delivered it.
Basically,turks have no modern stuff,but would join if Germans keep winning.
Probably after taking Baku.
 
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