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  1. strunkenwhite

    Finland's and Sweden's NATO accession following thread.

    You're thinking of the North Atlantic Titty Organization.
  2. strunkenwhite

    Finland's and Sweden's NATO accession following thread.

    Well, I suspect it's more like, "we do need Sweden, but having it be formally NATO instead of virtually NATO is less necessary."
  3. strunkenwhite

    Finland's and Sweden's NATO accession following thread.

    Well, in any case, Finland is certainly the one we should least want to have hanging in limbo, since it's the one with an actual extensive border with Russia.
  4. strunkenwhite

    Finland's and Sweden's NATO accession following thread.

    I'm not convinced that delaying a NATO-Turkey conflict exclusively benefits Turkey. (Or, for that matter, that the straits are the only asset Turkey brings to NATO; though now that the US is extricated from its middle eastern/central Asian misadventures, it may be the only reason Turkey's...
  5. strunkenwhite

    Finland's and Sweden's NATO accession following thread.

    Even in the worst case for Russia, it's not going to just disappear in a puff of smoke. If your expectations for NATO collapse are based on NATO lacking any external issues to hold it together, I think your expectations of Afro-Eurasian tranquility are wrong.
  6. strunkenwhite

    Finland's and Sweden's NATO accession following thread.

    Sure but now that the sleepers have been jolted awake and are actually getting more serious about Europe's defense again, why do you consider the next few years a likely time for NATO to collapse when it failed to do so before? Or am I misreading your talk of wells being poisoned? I'd think the...
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