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  1. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    I guess we will have to agree to disagree on whether "not abandoning the fort on demand" was an act of aggression. But thank you for clarifying.
  2. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    I would like some clarification on this point because my impression is that the federal posture at Fort Sumter was entirely defensive.
  3. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    Yes, so, what I am saying is that "they were disbanded" and "they were kept" are contradictory statements, in my mind, yet you said them both as if they were not. I counted that as an error, but if you can justify it please go ahead. (The first disbandment.)
  4. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    I accept your correction, but must issue my own that it's wrong to say "they were kept" when you agree they were disbanded. I think the thrust of my post stands. At the outset of the Civil War, Ohio and Pennsylvania were border states (prior to WV breaking off). If WV had been a state prior to...
  5. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    Thank you very much. So we've got these guys, who signed up to fight for Louisiana (and by extension the Confederacy) but then the Confederacy refused to take them and Louisiana rewrote the rules to only accept white fighting-men. (I understand that by 1862 the Confederates had drummed free...
  6. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    Easy: 1: Renamed for the word, so it's still called Bliss. 2: Renamed for "Boyz n da" Hood 3: Jimmy Stewart I'm half joking Mmm, tell me more. I keep hearing that this is basically a myth: there were blacks serving the Confederate Army, but as slaves, as laborers, etc. I'd love a good source...
  7. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    I don't believe that is true of federal elections in presidential years. It's historically been true of midterms but that may be changing since 2018 saw 50% of the voting eligible population vote for the first time in over a century.
  8. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    I am curious what metrics are being used to put FDR and Romney in about the same place.
  9. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    I was going to make a comment, but I believe we've gone off topic.
  10. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    What do you owe a lord who refuses—not just fails but declines—to lift a hand or say a word to protect you from the abuses of his other subjects?
  11. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    To nitpick, it's not over half a millennium yet for the lands now in the continental USA—although it is just over 500 in Puerto Rico. One could argue that portions of the western interior were conquered as recently as 150 years ago, though the USA's claimed boundaries had included that land for...
  12. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    Wherever did you get this interpretation of jurisdiction with respect to "subject to the jurisdiction [of the US]"? (Which is to say, get the idea that jurisdiction was exclusive to citizens and did not extend to non-citizens within US borders.) I presume you have heard of the Wong Kim Ark case...
  13. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    "This time communism will work!"
  14. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    It baffles me that Bacle's personal choices in romantic partnership are "macro level discrimination", can you explain that further? Eugenics is a bit similar IMO: if you define it as the basic concept of improving humanity via selective reproduction, everyone does this on a personal level—the...
  15. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    I think the movement hasn't produced borders clean enough to draw national boundaries around. Also there was governmental intervention keeping suburbs white.
  16. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    As labor, they brought them into their country. They weren't idiots. Their society was white with some Indians; they made it white and black with some Indians. Majority black in some places. If an ethnonationalist doesn't want his society to have more ethnicities intermingling, importing black...
  17. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    I would admit that all else being equal ethnic groups tend to keep to themselves of their own accord. But it's a much more ambitious claim to say that no pressures short of "government-corprate meddling" can persuade them to intermingle. I don't think that's true. Even if it were true, though...
  18. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    Ethnonationalism, as described by DSR so recently, clearly wasn't a priority for white people importing black slaves like it was going out of style. (Which, as it turns out, it was.) To your question, I hold that countries can limit immigration according to their tastes. But in an...
  19. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    Well, I am not convinced there is no solution that does not involve genocide, and ethnonationalism apparently does.
  20. strunkenwhite

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    Does this not show that ethnonationalism is a poor fit for such places, presuming that the people there wish to avoid genocide?
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