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    What if an 1875 Bismarck-Gorchakov pact clears Germany to move west and Russia to move south?

    Great response Stevep. - I think both the French and Germans would have learned. As the defeated, the French would have incentive to learn more, I concede. At the same time, France needed to physically recover, and this is only 4-5 years after both the defeat in war, and the Commune and...
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    What if an 1875 Bismarck-Gorchakov pact clears Germany to move west and Russia to move south?

    When do you think Russia would turn west, or Germany would east, aggressively, to start WWI? Would it be sometime very soon in the 19th century? (so Bismarck-Gorchakov pact only lasts a very short time like Molotov-Ribbentropp Pact) or would it only be decades later, probably in the 20th...
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    What if an 1875 Bismarck-Gorchakov pact clears Germany to move west and Russia to move south?

    Interesting - I suppose it could be a longer, harder fight, and you begin to offer some reasons. I personally would be intrigued by any scenario that somehow managed to drag this war out for years, like to the length of WWI or WWII. I just don't know how it would happen, especially without...
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    What if an 1875 Bismarck-Gorchakov pact clears Germany to move west and Russia to move south?

    I guess a question about the Austro-Hungarians is if they will go in against the Russians, with only the Ottomans as guaranteed allies at first, because the Germans are too busy in the west to help them, even if they wanted, and they don't want to. OTL they just took the lazy way and grabbed...
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    What if an 1875 Bismarck-Gorchakov pact clears Germany to move west and Russia to move south?

    What if during the 'War in Sight' Crisis of 1875 when Bismarck, disturbed at France's quick recovery from the Franco-Prussian War and rebuilding of its military and purchase of horses provoked press speculation about preemptive war against France, was coupled with fruitful private talks with...
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