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  1. bintananth

    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    Your position is bullshit. Rights come with responsibilties. Responsibilities tend to be expensive. Libertarians like you don't like getting the bill.
  2. bintananth

    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    @Abhorsen, You forget and seem to ignore that you have a duty to protect everyone around you. It's part of the social contract which makes us human. Did I have to tell a little kid that his shoe laces were untied a few years ago? No. I double knotted his shoes and sent him to his mother.
  3. bintananth

    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    To elaborate on this ... we rely on cooperation, age, and experience. An unarmed angry preteen will almost certainly win a fistfight against grandma but will usually say something like "Yes, mam!" when grandma tells them to do something they don't want to do because the alternative starts with...
  4. bintananth

    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    One of my distant cousins tried to volunteer for the US Army shortly after 9/11. At first glance you would think that a nearly 6ft tall gal with a college education who plays baseball in her spare time would be a recruiter's wet dream, and she was ... right up until the physical. Seven...
  5. bintananth

    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    You are tapdancing around the fact that every right comes with responsibilities. "Respecting other's rights" is a responsibilty which gets dragged along for the ride when you are excercising your rights.
  6. bintananth

    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    Rights and responsibilities are two sides of the same coin. Do I have a right to use that sidewalk? Yes. Do I have a responsibility to not leave trash or damage in my wake? Also yes. That's just a simple example of how rights come with responsibilities.
  7. bintananth

    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    You don't have to consent. Rights also come with responsibilities and you get both the day you are born.
  8. bintananth

    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    That's all on Russia being dumb.
  9. bintananth

    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    People like @Abhorsen often like to forget about or ignore the inconvenient responsibilities part of "rights and responsibilities" ...
  10. bintananth

    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    The thing is, the people who call for constription are often too old or too crippled to answer a call for volunteers. I'm a 44yr old who is missing a toe. My dad is 76. While we both know how to use a rifle - and could teach you how to use one - either one of us would be a complete "please...
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