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  1. bintananth

    If the Confederacy wins the American Civil War, is the Union going to become revanchist over the next several decades and beyond?

    Europeans don't really understand just how large the US actually is. New York to Los Angeles is several hundred miles longer than London to Moscow.
  2. bintananth

    If the Confederacy wins the American Civil War, is the Union going to become revanchist over the next several decades and beyond?

    The Civil War also demonstrates just how quickly a capital ship can built and put into service. USS Monitor was laid down 25 October 1861 and commissioned 25 February 1862. That's just four months to build a steam powered ironclad with two turret mounted 11" guns at a time when such things...
  3. bintananth

    If the Confederacy wins the American Civil War, is the Union going to become revanchist over the next several decades and beyond?

    A country the size of the US with a 16,000 man army practically doesn't even have an army. If the Confederates win and things don't quickly go to "let bygones be bygones" neither side can protect all of the USA/CSA border from the other. The Eastern Front during WWII never got that long.
  4. bintananth

    If the Confederacy wins the American Civil War, is the Union going to become revanchist over the next several decades and beyond?

    Oh, that bit of statics nonsense. As for why I usually don't post citations in Civil War threads: I'm pretty sure no one who posts to TS has a copy of Harper's Pictorial History or has borrowed a copy from a library and actually read the whole damn thing from cover-to-cover. Giving you a page...
  5. bintananth

    If the Confederacy wins the American Civil War, is the Union going to become revanchist over the next several decades and beyond?

    You are being, shall we say, less than intelligent and your link doesn't work.
  6. bintananth

    If the Confederacy wins the American Civil War, is the Union going to become revanchist over the next several decades and beyond?

    Cotton from the South wasn't anywhere near close to being as important as the grain and wool the British Isles got from the Union and Canada. Lose those and the people in the British Isles either starve or freeze. Canadians were also very pro-Union and anti-slavery to the tune of about forty...
  7. bintananth

    If the Confederacy wins the American Civil War, is the Union going to become revanchist over the next several decades and beyond?

    If the Confederacy manages to win despite the entire deck basically being stacked against them we'd probably be looking at a very isolated South that's North Korea writ large because Texas is larger than France and there are 10 more Confederate States.
  8. bintananth

    If the Confederacy wins the American Civil War, is the Union going to become revanchist over the next several decades and beyond?

    Most of it was blocked by the USN (basically built from scratch) saying "NOPE!" One of the Civil War naval battles took place just outside of Cherbourg, France. The Union also chased a foreign built Confederate raider from off the West coast of Mexico to Liverpool, England - around South...
  9. bintananth

    If the Confederacy wins the American Civil War, is the Union going to become revanchist over the next several decades and beyond?

    He did not die penniless in 1917. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_T._Wilder
  10. bintananth

    If the Confederacy wins the American Civil War, is the Union going to become revanchist over the next several decades and beyond?

    Any argument which says that an independant Confederacy would be an industrial power on the world stage fails to take the Tredegar Ironworks into account. With only 800 people (white or black, free or slave) that factory in Richmond, VA was half of the Southern industrial capacity all by itself...
  11. bintananth

    If the Confederacy wins the American Civil War, is the Union going to become revanchist over the next several decades and beyond?

    The Tredegear Ironworks in Richmond, VA alone made about half of the Confederate artillery. The South started to industrialize during the Civil War because a lot of manufactured stuff they used to import was no longer available.
  12. bintananth

    If the Confederacy wins the American Civil War, is the Union going to become revanchist over the next several decades and beyond?

    Um ... In 1860 the Union States had more than twice as many miles of railroad as the Confederate States (20,000mi v. 9,000mi). The 1,700 miles in the border States which aren't counted as part of either alone were more than 1/6 of the total in the South. The Union started building the 1,900...
  13. bintananth

    If the Confederacy wins the American Civil War, is the Union going to become revanchist over the next several decades and beyond?

    If the war ends quickly, the North and South can probably go their seperate ways without too much bitterness. Shiloh was probably the tipping point where it went from "we can get divorced on somewhat amicable terms" to "this ain't ending until one side is crushed and can't continue". After...
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