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  1. bintananth

    What if the U.S. reacted promptly to Japan's participation in WWI and its threat to Philippine SLOCs

    Just remembered this ... The main reason Kirishima fought two fast battleships in the middle of the night: the USN effectively ran out of heavy cruisers and Halsey was basically forced to use fast battleships in confined waters because he didn't have any heavy cruisers which could be tossed...
  2. bintananth

    What if the U.S. reacted promptly to Japan's participation in WWI and its threat to Philippine SLOCs

    The first two are newer than the Kongo's and barely outgun them in terms of throw weight but don't once range and is taken into account. Hood would be a better 1-1 close call and a Kongo outranges Hood by about 2.5 miles. The people matter just as much as the equipment they have does, if not...
  3. bintananth

    What if the U.S. reacted promptly to Japan's participation in WWI and its threat to Philippine SLOCs

    Because it took about three decades for a capital ship the Kongo's couldn't either outrun or outgun to be built.
  4. bintananth

    What if the U.S. reacted promptly to Japan's participation in WWI and its threat to Philippine SLOCs

    The American Iowa-class battleships were specifically designed and built to counter the upgraded Kongo's. 6kts faster than the two fast battleships Kirishima faced and that extra speed required using roughly an additional 10,000 tons of steel.
  5. bintananth

    What if the U.S. reacted promptly to Japan's participation in WWI and its threat to Philippine SLOCs

    At Guadalcanal Hiei was scuttled after being crippled by aircraft. Kirishima took on two much more modern American fast battleships (South Dakota and Washington) in the middle of the night and disabled one of them. EDIT: eight pre-WWI 14" naval rifles v. eighteen post-WWI 16" naval rifles is...
  6. bintananth

    What if the U.S. reacted promptly to Japan's participation in WWI and its threat to Philippine SLOCs

    The Kongo's had 8x14" guns. They outgunned every other capital ship except for the American New York-class and could outrun those. The Italian airstrikes (which I'd forgotten about) weren't naval airstrikes. Those were done using aircraft which took off from land.
  7. bintananth

    What if the U.S. reacted promptly to Japan's participation in WWI and its threat to Philippine SLOCs

    I wouldn't call the 1914 Japanese "a 2nd rate Naval Power" because the four Kongo's could outgun and/or outrun every other battleship or battlecruiser in existence with an added "we did it first" naval airstrike using seaplanes just three days after declaring war on Germany at a time when...
  8. bintananth

    What if the U.S. reacted promptly to Japan's participation in WWI and its threat to Philippine SLOCs

    Japanese, British, and American naval expenditures go way higher than they were when the Washington Naval Treaty put a stop to the arms race and there is no disarmament treaty because none of them can trust that the others will - at least nominally - honor it. From the British perspective: the...
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