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Radars are not good enough to be able to track a target on the other side of a mountain, or between a thick forest... Yes Radars work certain ways and often are not as simple as Aaron is making it out to be As someone who does ELINT, something like that wont be missed if it is on and looking.

Radars still operate in ways that involve clear lines of sight. Especially the radars involved with the Missles and AAAs. They are generally fixed or roaming radars that only focus one area or require something to track should it be turned on. They also have to rely on line of sight and trees...

It is the modern day B-17 of taking damage. It takes the hits and keeps flying I mean its nickname is the Warthog for a reason. It takes so damn much to kill it. It is what happens when the Army tries to make a flying tank and the Air force takes it from them

Aaron, do you know how Radars work? PLease answer me this before you go on about how the SPAAGs and SAMs work and usefulness But yes Fighter jocks are the issue. Army knows this. There are ways the US military is preparing for that, and it involves changing the whole of training tactics and...

Yet people above have shown the reason, and that the F-16 took more casualties then the A-10. An no, CAS is still damn important. Especially when it is combined with Friendly artillery, rocket and standard, and Cruise missiles to form a deayl amount of long range firepower

We don't need Bombers...We need dedicated CAS. Do none of you understand the need for CAS like the A-10? A gunship? Like seriously we can not rely on bombs and missiles we also need the good old guns. Infantry will be the biggest issue in combat and unless you are willing to drop large bombs...

And the capabilities of the equipment limits what people are able to do.. If you look at the area where SAMs are placed, they are often areas that are open to allow for RADAR to work best. The whole point I am trying to get across is that there are limits of what the systems can do and no...

As I keep repeating but people seem to not understand RADAR IS BEST IN OPEN SIGHT LINES OR ON MOUNTAINS! A war with Russia or China would not have such open sight lines as that with Iraq. There may be some, but such sight lines also allow for Artillery and other methods to hit such targets...

Cant forget US Army Artillery, standard and Rocket You do know all SAM systems have radars right? They can be mobile but that does not make them not able to be touched.... Do none of you understand this? These SAMs have to have radars or they are useless and dumb fired missiles...

I..I know this. I was using Machine gun as a general type of fast firing weapon. The point I am making is the Radar and imagery alone can give away the location of said vehicle, and allow for the use of cover that it cant shoot through or Radar not able to get a lock on quickly. Trees and hills...

That too. Lets not piss of everyone by using cluster munitions where bulets would be better

The SA-10, 20, and 21 series can reach that altotude. Also the SA-2 and 5 are great for defending high value stuff. I know the value of having the A-10 and I am looking at it from the ELINT and standard use the Army asks it to use. Also munitions like cluster bombs and SDB are more likely to...

I mean it has killed plenty if bad guys in Iraq and Afghanistan. So have bullets and bombs

I dont think you understand the capabilities of the SAMs our peers are using. There are at LEAST 3 SAM classes that can easily engage any aircragt at altitude. I know I had to look this up on WEG for an exercise. There are plenty of SAMs out there that can reach even the U2 at its max height...

You....do know that most SAM that are long range, especially the newer ones are mobile and would easily be able to be set up to prevent air support in anyway... The A-10 is just as useful when the IADS is down...so why worry about it then? The main argument against the A-10 is its effectiveness...

The Scorpion is at a worse place when compared to the A-10 because ot its high flying. It does not have the speed needed to survive an engagement with any SAM or enemy air force. The issue about flying high is that it makes any SAM from SA-2 to SA-21 and all other medium to high altitude...

Most AAA is not used for things flying so low one could touch it practically. They are made so they are easily seen with mk 1 eye ball, and well within radar range

I know, but there are ways to counter them. Pretty simplistic ones and some complicated ones depending on the system. I was not talking about Jammers but AAA woth fixed sites

You do know that most sites that would have such things would be fixed and once identified by sat would be a perfect target right..they still have basic maps. There are also plenty of things to counter said things but I can not go into that at all

You do know we have systems that can help a pilot identify the target area based on various other intelligence right? We have both Imagery and Signals let alone other methods that can help identify the location of said target. You also do know that radars can already see from ground level, the...