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    1. Was it much worse than in the present-day US? 2. I think that they lost a lot of goodwill for Russia after Russia imposed the Pale of Settlement on them, no? That, the pogroms, and anti-Semitic legislation. 3. Ironically, it would have been best for Poland to expel its entire Jewish...
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    How exactly have the Jews harmed Poland?
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    What I like about this map is just how many of the world's Ashkenazi Jewish population it places under PLC rule:
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    That makes sense. Also, FWIW, IIRC, Romanian Jews were historically prevented from living in rural areas, which is why Romania's Jewish population was historically mostly urban. But Wallachia does of course have its own cities, which could significantly increase its size under Hapsburg...
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    Does this result in Wallachia becoming more developed by the present-day? Because generally the ex-Hapsburg parts of Romania also tend to be the most developed ones: Also, in real life, Wallachia outside of Bucharest had very few Jews in the early 20th century, but if Wallachia goes Hapsburg...
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    FWIW, the Moldovan SSR (roughly equivalent to Bessarabia) was 3.3% Jewish in 1959, so comparable to Kharkiv/Kharkov Oblast and much lower than Odessa Oblast: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Russia#Historical_demographics
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    Well, large additional numbers of them subsequently moved there by the mid-20th century ;): Those are Jewish percentages out of the total population who lived there in 1959, BTW.
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    Elaborating on the Novopolonia idea: Who will end up settling it more? Poles or Ukrainians? Or even Lithuanians and Belarusians? I think that Ukrainians would have a premium here due to their ethnic territories being closer, but still, the PLC contained sizable numbers of Poles whom I wonder...
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    Austria, for geographic reasons, no? Assuming that Austria will keep Hungary here. Probably the PLC's, no? If the PLC already controls "Novorossiya" (perhaps "Novopolonia" in this TL), then expanding even further south into Crimea seems like the next logical step for them.
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    Here is @Skallagrim's original alternatehistory.com post in regards to this, if anyone is curious: https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/map-thread-xix.470444/page-401 https://www.unz.com/akarlin/is-ukrainian-more-similar-to-polish-or-to-russian/
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    Do you know why Russia didn't go for western Moldavia back in 1812? It conquered Moldova (eastern Moldavia) back then but not western Moldavia. I also wonder: Is Lithuania going to get some kind of special autonomy within Russia in this TL? It's interesting because Russia here looks like a...
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    What I really like about this map is that it gives Russia a border on the Carpathian Mountains by allowing it to annex all of Moldavia, including the western, future Romanian part of Moldavia that includes cities such as Iasi. The Baltic ports for Russia (specifically both Libau and Windau)...
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    Or like Sorbian within Germany, around the Cottbus area? I didn't realize that Prussia already had ambitions on the Polish Corridor even before Frederick the Great! I mean, Yes, there was Royal Prussia, but its autonomy had largely disappeared in or shortly after 1569...
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    I can't answer on S.'s behalf, but it's worth noting that Czechs and Austrian Germans can assimilate rather well in each other's culture: Just look at Franz Ferdinand's marriage to the Czech Sophie Chotek, for instance!
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    Well, he did say "Catholic", so ...
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    A lot of Protestants could move to English North America, no? Especially to the parts that are now the US. Of course, it's possible that due to butterflies that might not be a US in this TL, at least not the one that we know and love.
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    Were Bavarian Catholics simply collateral damage in this? And Yeah, I guess that it does make sense that in spite of their common faith, France viewed Austria-Hungary as a rival. Similar to Russia and Ukraine right now. Or Iraq under Saddam Hussein and Iran.
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    What role did France playing in causing the TYW? AFAIK, it began due to this incident, but where's France's overall blame here? : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defenestrations_of_Prague And I suspect that the Catholic refugees and their descendants could play a similar role in the PLC to the...
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    BTW, I forgot another potential destination for Catholic refugees in the event of a decisive Protestant victory in the TYW. Italy but also the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (PLC). The PLC is notable for previously accepting a lot of Jewish refugees during the Middle Ages, so it wouldn't be a...
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    What about to the British Isles, the Netherlands, Scandinavia, Livonia, and Estonia? I mean the countries themselves rather than their colonies. Interestingly enough, if a lot of them move to Livonia and Estonia, then they could perhaps complete the Ostsiedlung process there and make those two...
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