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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    Yes, I saw your second paragraph, Steve. That said, though, if the US is rearming from a low base, then it might still take a bit for results to be seen. And in any case, the US will actually need to send its forces to Europe en masse as well. Not something that can be done quickly to my...
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    Not necessarily; there would still be a window for a quick German victory in France before large numbers of US troops will arrive--if they will indeed ever arrive, that is. As I said, this alliance would not commit the US to fight for France if France went to war for Poland rather than to defend...
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    The US could build up its military more prior to WWII in this TL, no?
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    Agreed with your analysis here, Steve. One thing that I might want to point out, though, is that if the US will enter the war in 1939 (or whenever it will start--which is not guaranteed considering that this alliance would only protect France against unprovoked German aggression), then it might...
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    @stevep One thing that I want to point out here is that if a proto-NATO is created after the end of WWI (with the US, UK, France, and maybe eventually some or all of the Benelux countries as members) and there is subsequently an alt-WWII where there is no Fall of France and thus a Western Allied...
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    It is only in southern Ukraine that the German percentage in 1926 was larger than the Polish percentage in 1926:
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    Western Ukraine would have to go to the Poles due to its relatively large Polish minority population (this map is in percentage terms out of the total population): The grain there could, of course, go to Germany in large amounts as per of any subsequent German-Polish deal.
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    Yeah, such a land route seems quite ideal for Nazi Germany to access its desired Lebensraum! ;) But it would probably need control of the Baltic countries in order to actually reach its Russian territories. In such a scenario, I would expect Poland to be able to expand up to the old eastern...
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    Yep, @stevep, the German road was meant to be elevated, IIRC. So, Polish transport could still go below on the ground while the German road would look like an elevated bridge on top of it. Like this: Polish traffic would have went below while German traffic would have went above.
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    Germany would have had a land lank due to the extraterritorial land bridge over the Polish Corridor, which would likely be a prerequisite to any Nazi-Polish alliance.
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    Though at the same time, he will also get so much Soviet Lebensraum that additional Polish Lebensraum won't be necessary for a very long time!
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    If the Germano-Poles will win their war against the Soviet Union, then I suspect that Poland's fate will be secure so long as it behaves like a good little Nazi lapdog and also aggressively tries encouraging its Jews to move en masse to Palestine to Siberia or Central Asia or wherever.
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    Thanks; I might check it out later on. I think that it's possible that this alliance could eventually get extended to Belgium and the Netherlands since they're so close culturally-wise to France and Britain. Even extending it to Italy is possible if Italy actually remains democratic, though...
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    Which specific lower book are you thinking of here? Also, I wonder what effect a peacetime Franco-Anglo-American alliance would have on France's post-WWI Eastern European alliance system.
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    You can also take a look at parts of Lloyd Ambrosius's books here: https://www.google.com/search?q=lloyd+ambrosius+republicans+french+security&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwivuJfq9Ir5AhW4KUQIHVGlC5c4ChD8BSgBegQIARAL&biw=1920&bih=937&dpr=1 Absolutely no risk here, legal or otherwise!
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    @stevep You need to type in the article name ("Wilson, the Republicans, and French Security after World War I") on the LibGen search engine and then click on the relevant article and download it. Just be careful with this because, again, this is technically considered piracy even though AFAIK no...
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    By LibGen, I was talking about this: https://libgen.li/ Just be careful because it's technically piracy (though AFAIK no one or almost no one actually gets caught for using LibGen): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_Genesis FWIW, this proposed alliance only applied to unprovoked German...
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    AFAIK, even Woodrow Wilson said that the League of Nations's Article X only exemplified a moral commitment to defend other countries' territorial integrity rather than a legal commitment to do this. Hence France's desire to secure a more solid Anglo-French alliance in 1919. FWIW, Woodrow...
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    Fair points. Did you see my original post here? It was a very real possibility back in 1919, albeit only extending to Britain and France? This article can be found for free in its entirety on LibGen, FWIW.
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    The creation of a proto-NATO after the end of World War I

    The thing is, though, that AFAIK the Socialist Revolutionaries were pro-democracy and against totalitarian tyranny, so even if they want to export their government model abroad, I don't see this being perceived as being anywhere near as scary as the Bolsheviks doing the same thing. If the...
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