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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    An independent Jerusalem city-state?
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    Which Jerusalem? Palestinian Jerusalem or Israeli Jerusalem?
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    Take a look at this 2020 compromise Israeli peace plan by former Israeli peace negotiator Shaul Arieli: https://www.shaularieli.com/en/maps/negotiations/ No Swiss cheese like in Trump's Plan!
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    Might as well swallow up rump Croatia while they're at it!
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    I suspect that ultimately with enough international pressure the ultimate outcome will be a unilateral Israeli withdrawal from most of the West Bank.
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    That's partly but not completely correct: There's a huge part of central northern Israel that still remains Arab-majority even today: That's due to the ethnic cleansing there (and near the Beesherba area) being much less severe in 1948: But Yeah, AFAIK, these Arabs want to remain a part of...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    FWIW, Pakistan doesn't exactly have a clean record on the terrorism front either: Kashmir comes to mind.
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    Well, why did the international community approve of the land grabs that Israel made in 1948-1949 through the use of force? Why not insist on a return to the borders in the 1947 UN Partition Plan, for instance?
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    Didn't the Arabs insist in 1949 that Israel's borders during this time should only be viewed as being provisional rather than permanent, though?
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    FWIW, the number of Jewish settlers in Palestine should end up being much less than 500,000 since most of the Jewish settlers in the West Bank will become a part of Israel through mutually agreed land swaps. Your other points here are pretty valid, though it's worth noting that Israeli Arabs...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    @History Learner What are your thoughts on this plan? It's from some of the same people who previously brought us the Geneva Initiative in 2003, if I recall correctly: https://www.npr.org/2022/02/07/1078258023/independent-state-palestine-proposal-two-state-confederation-israel
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    That's partially but not completely right. The West itself generally doesn't get punished for its own violations of the UN Charter, such as in Kosovo in 1999, but is perfectly capable of ensuring that other countries get punished for violating the UN Charter if the West so wishes. So, in other...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    And they're not even fully consistent in regards to this considering that they allowed Israel to permanently keep its territorial gains from 1948-1949, which of course were gained through military force. Had Israel also conquered the West Bank back then, Israeli rule over the West Bank would be...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    True enough, but there's a school of thought that argues that actions that are illegal but nevertheless legitimate in some way should not be punished. That's what the "illegal but legitimate" doctrine, developed after Kosovo, is all about.
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    That should be changed. Israel is prosperous enough to survive and thrive on its own without much, if any, US military aid. The US already did Israel enough of a favor by preventing a lot of ex-USSR Jews who wanted to move to the US from actually doing so, thus compelling them to move to Israel...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    International law also said that NATO's 1999 Kosovo intervention was illegal, but NATO made it happen anyway while avoiding any punishment for itself as a result of this. I look at the reality on the ground rather than what international law says. And honestly, I find it rather strange that...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    Yeah, FWIW, in that post, I explicitly said that the Palestinians need the living space in the Jordan Valley more than the Israelis need it. Honestly, I'd be quite content to settle for something like the 2003 Geneva Initiative, but slightly more in favor of Israel (though with larger...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    Yeah, that makes sense. And honestly, I see no point in having Israel build settlements in parts of the West Bank that it doesn't intend to keep anyway. And as tempting as the idea of the Jordan Valley as Israel's living space could be, I think that the Palestinians need that living space more...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    For water: https://geneva-accord.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/water.pdf The rest of the plan annexes: https://geneva-accord.org/annexes-translations/ And Yes, I think that Israel would have to repatriate the rest of its settlers.
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    The Palestinian neighborhoods in Jerusalem would go to the Palestinian Arab state. Access to the holy sites would be available for everyone regardless of faith, I think. Also, AFAIK, the Arabs in 1948-1949 said that the borders that Israel got back then were armistice lines rather than...
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