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"THE WEED OF CRIME....BEARS BITTER FRUIT. The SHADOW knows..." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!!

Considering the disaster the whole Initiative turned out to be? "Doing it better" than Buffy's gang is kind of up for debate. The setting was stupid (under a college campus??), the organization was stupid (led by a DOCTOR?), the weapons and equipment (taser guns?? No body armor, no automatic...

@DarthOne , I think it was less that, and more they were trying to copycat "the X Files" which was pretty popular around this time. Thing is, there's a way to mesh those shows, to an extent, there were a few decent fics I remember that actually pulled it off somewhat. But the Initiative...

I don't see the reason to hate any of the original cast....well, Cordelia needed not one but SEVERAL slaps around the head, but she got better over time. That and most guys liked her because....to quote another writer, "she's hot and has a great ass"! :rolleyes: But again, her character got...

By all means, you have my interest, do continue. And welcome back. :)

Oh, to be sure, eye candy was a large part of it, hence the following among a lot of males, me included. No argument there at all. Buffy in some ways, arguably, WAS in fact original for it's time (late 1990s), as it was about a stereotypical blonde girl (at least on the surface) who would be...

Uh, okay? Didn't need to know that, but hey, to each their own I suppose...

Also, I suppose I should add that YES, indeed I am a dirty old man who's very hetro who loves shows with lots of hot girls in them. Naughty and scandalous, I know.

Uh, gossip I suppose? But more interest to fans of the show like myself, especially in light of the details of the shows creator Joss Whedon that came out, plus how that affected many of the actors and actresses on set.

Some more details on the tell-all book, and Sarah Michelle Gellar admitting there was friction on the set between the actors. I think that tends to happen somewhat with any “young adult” tv show though. Then again, Joss didn’t help at all...

Sadly, that wasn’t as bad as how Nicholas Brendon got treated and eventually wound up. ☹️

By all means do so, Id like to hear your thoughts and observations. Have you seen or read any of the Buffy “reboot” BOOM comics at all??

And now the requisite tell-all book comes out. https://nypost.com/2022/03/17/buffy-actor-says-joss-whedon-was-toxic-to-pretty-women/

Clownfish TV has a pretty good pulse on what's going on in the multimedia world, especially Disney, since they are, or claim to be former Disney employees in the media branch. Another good channel on Youtube to get some "insider" news and discussions is Midnights Edge.

So, pretty much confirms everything you heard then?

In summary, Whedon broke his silence in regards to the accusations, and it's not pretty. The New York Vulture did an interview that's been getting dissected. And he had some not so pleasant things to say. https://nypost.com/2022/01/17/joss-whedon-responds-to-claims-of-affairs-abuse-on-buffy/

If I can make a bold claim? The fanbase is partly to blame for that. Of course Marters and Boreanaz were awesome...and the fanbase, in particular the female side just got starry-eyed over them. Now, jeez, what to do? Matters did sort of take a life of their own there. Hell, the character...

Well, to be fair he doesn't really dish any new dirt on Joss Whedon in the interview. He does confirm though that Whedon got nasty and rather physical with him over the whole idea of Spike becoming a "hero" rather than a villain to get smoked. I don't know if Marsters had any hand in that...

A video interview with James Marsten...and he spills some more dirt on Whedon. The bloodletting continues.