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@Cherico I'm not saying China wouldn't end up eating shit. I'm merely asking that we look at the costs of such courses of action. You say that we may lose a couple dozen cities. That's not good thing, even if it erases China. Hell, erasing China isn't a good thing. Lord knows what all that...

"Afghanistan was a disaster; Ukraine is currently turning into a quagmire not for Russia, but for the entire Western alliance system." -- He makes a lot of good points, but I'm not sure I agree with this point at all. It's a point of drain, but would likely be dropped in a heartbeat if we go...