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  1. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    I think you're safe. As Boot stated, this is really just enforcing the rules as they were already written. Spartan303 has gone on record saying that the vast majority of the site is perfectly fine. I was alarmed when I first saw this pop-up, but in the past few pages, I realized I might have...
  2. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    It did alarm me when I first saw it. Anyway, I felt the thread helped to flesh out where the problems were. I admit to having been lax in my work on the forum and I should reach out to some friends and see if we can get them to sign up. I think most of them are conservative, but I think...
  3. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    Honestly, I thought we replaced "fag" with "cuck". It's more accurate in what people are trying to say, anyway. Although I honestly think fag/faggot is overblown...maybe not something we should have sprawled across our message board with a small user base.
  4. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    It's not really a matter of membership numbers, but also account engagement. What good is a member who opens an account, posts for a week, and then never comes back? The forum works on a model of repeat business. Now there are several difficulties to this that we have to manage. I see three...
  5. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    Well, that seems to have hammered out the basics. Is it possible that @LordSunhawk could set that list as the standard (at least temporarily) so that current and new users can get the gist of what we're looking to achieve? Because honestly, he really managed to cut through the confusion and I...
  6. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    See, me too, but I also know that my restraint has been tested at times. In fact, I can't even promise I've never posted something like that. For example, I might post something akin to a 5 (but not a direct call to action or promise of action, mind you) if I saw a mayor allow his city to be...
  7. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    I'm all for that. There are areas of improvement for this site. And while none of us users really wanted the responsibility, we do have some responsibility in drawing people in. In a sense, the founders of this site are both users and product. I won't lie to you either. That is not a minor...
  8. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    Well, if that's the case, I think the next step is really to look at two major things: Where does example 3 push into example 4 and 5. This is difficult and I don't expect anyone to answer this today. This is really something that has to be established by policy. The mods and the users are...
  9. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    Almost everyone involved with that had their account banned for various fictitious reasons. They already laid out the primary concern; expanding the site's userbase. And that is a legitimate concern. If we ask for them to shoot straight for us, we have to shoot straight for them. We all signed...
  10. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    That is actually really helpful, that's sort of what I think we needed. I numbered them for my own purpose. I don't see a problem at all from 1-3. 4 is...well, just a string of senseless insults, so I don't think most posters would use them. So I can see that. 5 is I'm going to assume, the...
  11. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    Precisely the problem. EDIT Maybe tone banners might be useful for some threads and discussions? Probably not going to be used like, 90% of the time, but if there is a confusion as to what tone is acceptable, maybe pre-empting posters might be an option. Of course, that might just be a pain in...
  12. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    It has, but people don't always understand things the same way. We may not even be understanding each other now, which is the big thrust of the confusion. As an example, think to the US and Turkey. When the US armed Kurds in Syria, the US thought it was fine. Turkey thought it was very much NOT...
  13. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    See, I'd like to make a quip about this, but now I'm not sure if this will get me shitcanned from the thread.
  14. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    I think it's about expectations. We all don't seem to be having the same expectations and where the line is going to be drawn. Given the history of the forum's userbase, some people are going to get a little nervous when people start talking about "civility standards".
  15. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    See, reading Tippy's and Zoe's posts, I'm not sure I'm getting that. It feels as though they're trying to insist we debate like high minded philosophers in regards to high minded subjects. As opposed to a large group of people who are very passionate about what we say and believe, which tends to...
  16. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    No, SB will still lose. They're choking themselves into submission. It really has nothing to do with us at this point. My concern is that people are generally out looking to engage in something fun and safe. Most forums that are high-minded and with high standards are either very niche or...
  17. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    It may be. Look, you tell people "Hey, we need to crackdown on rulebreakers" after leaving a forum where "crackdown on rulebreakers" generally involved slapping people with over the top bans and citations out of malice and with hard to define rules. You had people whose infractions went from...
  18. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    Well, 90% of what we say is probably not even close to being up for review. And we all knew coming in that some things were going to be off-limits. We all know that any of the mods would break out a 40k gif if someone here ever promoted pedophilia or sexual assault. What we're really looking at...
  19. The Original Sixth

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    Can we get some more feedback on this? We can all probably guess when things are going well, but it's not always easy to tell what constitutes a failure. What sort of posts have you all this concerned? I know of one of them, but was it that bad or is this a trend?
  20. The Original Sixth

    Important Civility Rules Enforcement

    You tend to think the best of people. That's probably a good trait to have if you need to risk your neck to save someone else's. Yes it was a bit naive, but so is the belief that you've done a bad job. The US is going through a collapse of its 80 year long political institution. The four major...
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