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Fair enough. I can agree with that.

No. Obama was just as interventionist as Bush, if not more so. He didn't create ISIS by leaving people alone. He created ISIS by giving Sunni Islamic terrorists in Syria money and supplies to fight a proxy war against Assad.

It's been doing a pretty shit job of doing that. And considering Israel's foreign policy involves turning the ME into an anarchistic wasteland by overthrowing the governments of their enemies, I'd say we're following Israel's foreign policy plan, not our own.

Frankly, the problem of Islamic terrorism would be stopped if we a) stopped funding Islamic terrorists overseas and b) stopped letting Islamic terrorists into our countries with our generous immigration policies. If we'd have done those two things, 9/11 wouldn't have happened.

I'd like to touch on this. Israel has been a huge part in all of our Middle Eastern conflicts. We've basically been following their foreign policy plans for two decades now with no end in sight. Iraq, Syria, Iran... all of those conflicts are fought on behalf of Israel. America may be apathetic...

The media is only against a war when Trump is doing the war because they are a bunch of partisan hacks who think anything Trump does is bad. I mean, look at their reaction to Trump "abandoning the Kurds." I have a very different view of Trump than you do. Trump only cans people who don't kiss...

Probably because the people in charge - Mike Pompeo especially - have been wanting war with Iran for years.

I pray to God that you're right.

It was not inevitable that we constantly be involved in trying to destabilize the Middle East though. We could have captured and defeated Al-Qaeda by Christmas of 2001 if George W. Bush wasn't controlled by ideological neoconservatives. It was not inevitable that Iran would become a regional...

It's because Trump is doing it, mostly. Anything Orange Hitler says or does is bad, even if the actions and things he says are self-contradictory. That said, I find it hard to disagree with them on this. I think all this nonsense with Iran could have been avoided if we had decided the Middle...

I understand Peter Zeihan's perspective, but I find his claim we are "almost out of the Middle East" laughable for the simple fact that it's an exaggeration at best. People who really follow what's going on, like Scott Horton, readily point out we're still over there blowing up Yamen on Saudi...

"Retaliation" is sort of a joke. We have no business even being in the Middle East at all.

I, for one, am against the war and am proud of people like Tucker Carlson to sticking to their anti-imperialist chops. Unlike certain American Presidents...