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That's a fun game to play, you have no standards either by my arbitrary rules.

Pffft, silly to ask for people not to be bad people. Endless people have asked for exactly that. Maybe we'd be in a better position if people listened for a change haha.

A<B But not A>B Good people can exist in a bad environment, but bad people will not create a good environment. This discussion is getting plain silly.

Oh come on man, the living conditions have nothing to do with what makes a good person, being good is in my opinion an objective thing. My point is that a lot of people, if not a majority, are not good people. And that is why living conditions suck. Good people make good environments, bad people...

Because if people were unloyal and unchaste we'd be living in some sort of hybrid of Weimar Germany and Sodom/Gomorrah, crossed with some cyberpunk dystopias. *Looks outside* Oh...

Because those are the principles that I believe make for a good person. :V

More chaste than a monk, more loyal than a hound.

Yeah well, how many ancient Greeks or Romans are running about today? Civilization seems to only really work if monogamy is practiced, monogamy with sluts is basically an oxymoron itself.

Chastity and loyalty are also foundational elements of stable civilization, can we work on those too? Without those, marriage might as well be defunct.

Nothing is inherently wrong with marriage. But modern marriages+modern women makes it too risky. Certainly a lot of men have happy lives married to their wives. But for the love of god learn what risk assessment and risk management strategies are, if something has even the tiniest chance of...

Cherico's point is that if a great comedian like Robbin Williams can get snubbed by women, the layman stands no chance. :V

You're asking what has divorce got to do with marriage???

No you don't get it, just roll the dice a thousand times and pray that you never roll a 1!

I'm not lonely or miserable though, so your thesis has failed pretty badly. :V

Mate, you don't get to decide how people are feeling lmao. Hell I might agree on the bitterness, but lonely and miserable? Absolutely not. Shockingly you don't need vapid soulless automatons to be kept with company and happiness.

"I'm not shaming you" >Proceeds to use shaming tactics Unbelivable.

This thread is a good example on why men are just calling it quits. Protip, if someone says the juice isn't worth the squeeze, don't shame them, you're only feeding their already decided minds. Hilarious.

Pffftt, try something OTHER than shaming tactics. Embarrassing.

If you say so. Agree to disagree.

It's easy to find anybody if you're standards are low, I don't want covid vaxxed women, that cuts out some shit like 80-90% of em for starters.