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Wait, your anti-feminist FB group has Muslims preaching? Doesn't that make more sense for a pro-feminist group to do? And isn't what I just typed utterly insane? God the world is messed up.

Which is what some people actually believe, and yet they also believe things that can only be found in the Old Testament. As I remember, it's sodomy specifically that's considered unclean in the Old Testament, not homosexuality in general; and there isn't much said about it in the New. Which...

Oh I am well aware of that; but the problem is some people seem to think those rules for a different age must be applied to the current one. It's safe to eat pork and shellfish now, so what point is there in having a rule against doing so? And if you're going to ignore that one, as most...

From what I remember, me and the bible do not agree though on what is clean, and unclean. Actually sitting down to read it was one of the major reasons I became an atheist for a time, especially when my Sunday school teacher kept telling me not to question what I read.

Maybe; I'd have to check, and I'm not sure I want to dig through that thing again. At least, not just so I can prove that I was right about something so minor. Perhaps; but that's not the impression I got. Besides, even if that's the case; he and I clearly have different ideas on where that...

It has been many years since I last read the bible; maybe I'm misremembering. But I was sure there was something about how you're forbidden from using the same land to plant different crops; it was one of my go-tos for examples of crazy stuff in the bible.

But he didn't clarify his position in that way; he said "You are not allowed to do anything in order to avert death." That a pretty clear blanket statement. According to him, I'm not even allowed to put a Band-Aid on an open wound.

I tend to go on tangents, and this is supposed to be a thread for arguing about religion in general, not just about free will. I guess I took the opportunity to get something unrelated off my chest; sorry about that. This is what I was responding to, when I said it meant there was no free will...

Which is really sad, because I kinda liked him in the beginning. He just seemed more personable, and compassionate, compared to the pope before him. Then he started talking smack about agnostics, and that impression went out the window fast.

Yeah I know; I just think it would be cooler if the dreamer woke up, and the dream came with him. Kinda like this: I mean we are talking about an eldritch being beyond our comprehension here; maybe we'll become friends, and it'll work out that way, if they want it to.

More like the dream itself awakes, if that makes any sense.

True; all of that would be gone. But imagine what we would gain in exchange. Yeah, that would be kinda awesome. Maybe he's a frustrated parent, who really wishes we'd get our lives together, but also knows that if he did if for us, we'd never grow up to be adults in our own right. Or perhaps...

It's entirely possible that one day, science will discover god, the afterlife, and everything else; but we're not there yet, and it could take quite a while until it does.

That's one possibility; personally though, until I see concrete evidence, I'm comfortable acknowledging my own ignorance. In fact, it's entirely possible that we will never know what god is; and I'm okay with that.

I used to be an atheist, but it never really sat well with me. I didn't believe in Christianity anymore; but did that necessarily mean that god did not exist? No; all it meant was that one theory was wrong. We used to have so many stories, explaining how the sun works; and yet, once science got...

Yeah like shaving our beards; that is in the old testament you realize, that you're not allowed to shave your beard. But then again the bible is not the word of god; but rather the word of a guy, who heard it from a guy, who said it was the word of god. Of course, there's a lot more than just...

I'm not trolling; that would imply I'm having fun. I just think you're insane. You keep trying to invalidate what I'm saying, by pointing out perceived contradictions and inconsistencies, but you never do any self-reflection on your own position. This isn't an argument or a debate to you; this...

Just as a side note; nearly every single person I've seen who denounces Moral Relativism, immediately goes on to prove it's validity, by trying to enforce their morals on everyone else. Newsflash; not everyone is Christian. Even among those who are, most of them don't ascribe to your particular...

I know what you are, but what am I? What about telling people "You are not allowed to do anything in order to avert death" has anything to do with preserving life? If anything, from my perspective, you seek to preserve death. Of course the ends don't justified the means; but that applies to you...

If you are not allowed to make mistakes, and make your own path in life, than your choices have no meaning; and what we see as moral can and does change, due to our choices. From my point of view, your belief that "You are not allowed to do anything in order to avert death" is evil. First of...