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We may just have to settle for their legacies being tarnished beyond repair; at least in terms of their earthly punishment.

It's important to keep in mind that, for as much as the Ukrainian government is in bed with the corrupt western establishment, the people of Ukraine, the ones suffering thanks to the invasion, are mostly innocent of their government's crimes. They do not deserve what Russia is doing to them.

I think at this point, regardless of your specific reasonings for not wanting to support him, there are enough of them to go around that most of us can agree that Trump has become more a hindrance to us getting a decent candidate, than one himself.

Oh I'm not trying to defend him; just pointing out that he's a blowhard who likes to make the "Big Ask", and can't really be trusted to mean what he says. I'm not planning on voting for him either, if I can avoid it.

I don't even know when this particular attempt to pin tax fraud onto Trump in order to discredit him politically started; because there have been many, many attempts.

Trump has a history of making big sweeping statements that he doesn't actually mean, and/or never follows up on. I'm not worried about him torching the Constitution; it's probably just more bluster coming from the guy who seems to be a never-ending fount of the stuff. Of course they did...

Which would be consistent with one of Trump's biggest flaw from his term in office; his inability to put together a competent staff, and one that isn't plotting to undermine him at every turn. It's even possible they did know who Fuentes was, but intentionally didn't tell Trump.

They may compete with each other for power, but that's not for our benefit; it's for theirs. It's like two pickpockets arguing over territory; whoever wins is still going to steal your wallet.

That's because you tend to think in terms of people and not ideas. You're actually very authoritarian; you just want there to be authorities you can trust to have your best interests in mind. Which is why you're so against the concept of the uniparty; you desperately want to believe that there's...

If only Republicans like him and DeSantis were the norm, and not the exception.

None of them have even acknowledged the fact that what he did was illegal, and should be prosecuted. I get that it wouldn't get anywhere, but refusing to even talk about it is cowardly. Either that, or calculated. But you guys don't like that one? Okay; how about the Republicans' utter refusal...

"Starts"? On this forum we've been infighting almost nonstop since the 2020 election. Anthony Fauci provably lied to Congress on numerous occasions. That's illegal; but as far as I'm aware, not once has any Republican made a move to try and bring charges against him. That's just one example of...

One of his biggest being trusting the Republicans; although pushing the COVID vaccines and giving manufacturers carte blanche immunity for any "complications" that arose from taking said vaccines is a close second.

More like the GOP is toxic because, in spite of the fact that the Dems pretend they're an existential threat, they've basically done nothing to oppose them; meaning that people who would vote for them if they were legit don't bother. Also, dismissing terms like "Controlled opposition" and...

I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop. I mean sure; the same tactics they used to prejudice people against Trump might not work anymore, but I doubt they're just going to give up and let someone who actually gives a crap about the American people in to try and fix things without a fight.

Blaming it all on Trump just makes me think you people are incapable of recognizing the issues that render damn near your whole political party toxic. He's not solely responsible for the failure of the promised "Red Wave"; though I will grant you he probably didn't help, impulsive jackass that...

No offense, but that all sounds like wishful thinking to me.

Bare minimum he should be dishonorably discharged. I don't care that officers technically can't; if our military is to claim any sort of legitimacy, it has to happen to every general that has allied themselves with an establishment elite class who's goal is to destroy this country from within.

Plus we thought the Republicans were actually on our side, for the most part at least, and not just controlled opposition.

Depends on how you define a "moderate"; personally, I'd argue that anyone who'd consider Trump to be poison fails to meet the description, as that's an incredibly extreme view to hold.