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  1. Terthna

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Honestly, this thread is just reminding me of why I despise organized religion in general. Every argument, no matter how small, is like pulling teeth, and you're always the bad guy. It's like modern politics in many ways.
  2. Terthna

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    I asked you to drop it, and you take it as an opportunity to try and get the last word in; attacking my character in the process. I think we're done in general with each other now.
  3. Terthna

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Your problem, is that you think everyone having their own system of beliefs is a problem; meanwhile I accept it as an unchangeable fact inherent to human existence. Even if you try to force your set of texts and beliefs onto people who reject them, all that will result from that folly is death...
  4. Terthna

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    I'm just putting a stop to this right now, because I am not interested in delving any further into a religious argument; and I'm fairly certain such would be drastically off topic for the thread. Suffice to say, the idea that there's some sort of unified "religious right" is a myth.
  5. Terthna

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Actually no; my only argument is that different Christians believe different things, and that they have different ideas on what is and is not "moral". You'd think that would be easy to accept, that there is no "universal Christianity" upon which we could build a functioning society, but nope...
  6. Terthna

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    While it has been quite a while, my mother used to invite Jehovah's Witnesses into her home when they came knocking on our door, and have hours-long conversations with them; and I recall Leviticus 3:17 being one of the passages they claimed justified their proscription against blood...
  7. Terthna

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Yeah, that... that's what I was referring to when I said that those were things "most Christians agree they shouldn't treat as sins". Your 'gotcha' was already preempted. Mind you, not every Christian agrees with that view; or at least, they like to pick and choose from the Old Testament what...
  8. Terthna

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Then why don't we ask the Jehovah’s Witnesses what they think you need to do in order to preserve your soul? You know, the guys who "misinterpreted" Leviticus 3:17 as not just prohibiting the ingesting of blood (as well as fat by the way; which is something they conveniently ignore, as they have...
  9. Terthna

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    The problem is that Christians can't even agree on what god does and does not consider a sin; even though they're all working from the same text, they all have vastly different interpretations on what it says, and like to pick and choose which parts they believe in. It's one of the reasons why...
  10. Terthna

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Perhaps, but you'd be splitting the base either way. Conservative Christians, of the sort that wants the government to legislate morality, aren't exactly the most inclusive demographic.
  11. Terthna

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Conservative Christians will probably never vote Democrat, even if they're abandoned by the GOP. Meanwhile, every LGBT voter that doesn't vote Republican will vote Democrat. Therefore, from a purely utilitarian perspective, it makes sense to side with the latter on certain issues over the...
  12. Terthna

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    We were a coalition; any semblance of unity we once had was lost when Biden assumed office. Too many conservatives are acting as if anyone who disagrees with them about anything are stupid, evil, or both; they've become a mirror image of exactly what we came together to oppose.
  13. Terthna

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Of course they don't; but they do have the right to not agree with you that it's immoral.
  14. Terthna

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    No worries; I'm done talking to you anyways. Not really interested in anything else you might have to say.
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