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  1. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    That's a different issue; there are a lot of things that kids shouldn't be exposed to, but that doesn't mean adults should be stigmatized for indulging in them. I don't think they're getting divorced because of pornography; because after some further digging, there are a lot of issues with that...
  2. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    So what you're saying is that nothing that can be considered a vice can be healthy and positive. Have you consider that, by your own logic, religion can also be considered a vice? I could spend hours point out example after example where your religion has taken over, ruined, and ended lives, and...
  3. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    That's a bit different from what you were originally arguing; that there are no positive effects than can be ascribed to pornography. Of course it does; but to be honest, that was an article, an opinion piece, not an actual study. Maybe I'm just cynical, but agendas are to be expected in those...
  4. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    Says the man ignoring literally all studies to the contrary because biased while completely accepting the biases of his own studies. At least I have the decency to try and point out fundamental flaws in the methodology of opposing studies. I reject your philosophy because I believe it is wrong...
  5. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    If that's what it takes, then so be it; but honestly, I think you overestimate the importance of this particular bit of Christian doctrine. After all, we legalized gay marriage, and Christianity has yet to implode; and that one is still a particularly contentious decision to most Christians. In...
  6. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    I see no problem with that. It wouldn't be the first time a part of christian philosophy has changed or been abandoned in response to new ideas, and it won't be the last; I see this as a good thing. Let's just say I have issues with organized religions, particularly Christianity, and leave it...
  7. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    And yet, that is exactly what every Christian I have ever met does. You are not the only person I've met who was utterly convince that their interpretation of Christianity is the only correct one. In any event, this is irrelevant to Christian values on a societal level; there is nothing that...
  8. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    Actually I do; regardless of your insistence otherwise, because I say so. I am not a Christian, I'm an agnostic theist; so honestly, your particular religious beliefs are irrelevant to me. As for Psychology Today's supposed bias, you proved nothing of the sort; I watched the video you posted...
  9. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    And to me, you're just another projecting authoritarian; either pretending, or delusional enough to believe, that your argument carries more weight than it actually does. Practically, there is no difference between you, and and the "liberals" you claim to oppose; you just want your particular...
  10. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    If those values are objectively wrong and harmful, as I believe yours in regards to pornography are? I will not hesitate to denounce them. Neither Jesus himself, nor Christianity in general, gets special treatment in the marketplace of ideas. That said, just because I repudiate one Christian...
  11. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    Then why didn't you quote it until now? Also, I find it interesting that you still refuse to acknowledge that I answered your previous question. In other words, this isn't about pornography at all, but rather that you think everyone else must share the same christian values as you. I'm sorry...
  12. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    My question it; why the heck are you even bringing that up? That's not what you asked me to prove, nor does the study I used as an example have anything to do with the subject of stigmas; here are some quotes to remind you of what that study was supposed to be an example of: Please stop...
  13. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    True, but it is very dangerous when not used properly; which is not true of pornography. Did you even read the summary? No, it's more like correlation does not equal causation; to assume otherwise without evidence is anathema to reason itself.
  14. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    Yes, because heroin is a poison, and he likely was aware of that fact; but pornography isn't. Yes, I can. Because I read them. Here's just one example taken from the database; I've bolded the important part of the summary: The findings in the study only shows that there is some sort of...
  15. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    So in other words, it's not the person's fault that they're obese, it's the food's fault? Sounds like you're just trying to shift the blame away from the individual, and make them not responsible for their own choices. I feel it's necessary to point out that many of those studies assume the...
  16. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    There are people who have been heavily damaged by any number of things; that doesn't mean it is those things fault that those things happened. Also, I can say "oh that's because it has stigmas attached to it" in regards to pornography disrupting relationships; because for the most part, it's the...
  17. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    I'd say we've gotten off track quite a bit, yes. It's your call.
  18. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    It is more in the ballpark than this thread though, isn't it?
  19. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    Several actually. There's evidence to suggest that the increased proliferation of pornography, thanks to the advent of the internet, has contributed to a sharp decline in sexual irresponsibility, teen sex, divorce, and rape.
  20. Terthna

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    Naturally. The marketplace of ideas is not for the timid.
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