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  1. Skallagrim

    We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives

    Your understanding of history is... somewhat lacking. You're thinking of the Post-Roman Dark Ages, whereas what we're facing is more the transition of the dying Republic to the Principate. (Note that Caesar's seizure of power from the traditional elite didn't end well, and that Augustus was an...
  2. Skallagrim

    We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives

    No, it's from the end of literally every time in history fiduciary currency has been adopted on a large scale and for extended duration. Nice smear, but it might help if you knew a bit more about monetary history. Which is ever less reliable, eroding the economy and all the public trust...
  3. Skallagrim

    We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives

    Plato's nonsense again. "You must use the power against others or it will be used against you. Either suffer under Satan's whip, or become Satan and hold the whip." No. Because here's the truth: the money runs out. The house of cards collapses. The perpetuation of the present system isn't...
  4. Skallagrim

    We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives

    The people currently in power can certainly be cast out of power. But things are escalating as we speak, and will continue to do so. Already, the establishment and the populists hate each other. Compromise no longer exists. The elite does not intend to relinquish power. They are fat weaklings...
  5. Skallagrim

    We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives

    "You shall be equal--" (the people cheer) "--IN DEATH!" *Holodomor intensifies*
  6. Skallagrim

    We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives

    The political is not the real. What you (ought to) defend is not the system, but the world upon which that system is presently imposed and inflicted. Now, my contention is that you cannot defeat the system, but it is inherently self-destructive. So you need patience, and you need to survive the...
  7. Skallagrim

    We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives

    The interesting thing about conservatism -- as traditionally (and as such, genuinely) understood -- is that in many different contexts, it represents the same fundamental values... but advocates different expressions of those values, which are suited to the specific circumstances. Thus, you get...
  8. Skallagrim

    We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives

    Within the scope of your actions, it has the power you give it. You want to give it power; I give it none. Any power that it has outside the scope of my actions, it had anyway, and that is best handled by avoiding the thing altogether. If your idea was "I can infiltrate the government to...
  9. Skallagrim

    We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives

    You openly state that you want to jump in. You can choose not to do that. Avoiding madness is the opposite of a delusion, but explaining that to you seems futile, because you are obsessed with the mud-pit. You see it as the entire world, and can't see that there are other things beyond it...
  10. Skallagrim

    We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives

    The same one that was used by Nero, I daresay. You crave this, and it controls you. I would refuse it if offered, and it has no power over me at all. You see pigs wrestling and you jump in to join them, thinking you'll win with all your strategic brilliance. Meanwhile, at the end of the day --...
  11. Skallagrim

    We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives

    No. You fail to grasp what is at stake. You think in terms of popularity contests. You want to cater to the masses to make them yours. You are, as this citation proves beyond a doubt, concerned with what other people think about you, or your movement, or your goals. And you think that what you...
  12. Skallagrim

    We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives

    Your misplaced sarcasm notwithstanding, the derision is simply what your persistent lies tend to invite. And I know I'm fairly clever, I don't need you to tell me that. :cool: In any event, the rest of your post completely proves my point, so you're doing my work for me. Keep it up! This part...
  13. Skallagrim

    We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives

    Yes -- If one wants a good example of what conservatism should really aim for, Tolkien is in fact a great example. Both in his writing (all about how dangerous power is, and how it shouldn't -- and can't be -- "used for good") and in his life (very traditionalist and very unwilling to impose his...
  14. Skallagrim

    We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives

    You seem to have missed the part where I gave a clear example that proves my point. Once again, your cognitive dissonance strikes. You say that you "deal with the world as it is", but the opposite is true. The advice you give to conservatives always boils down to "be more centrist, guys! stop...
  15. Skallagrim

    We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives

    No, his idea of "seize the power and USE IT" is rather the opposite of stoically facing a troubled age in the knowledge that "this, too, shall pass". He very much wants to enter into the "race", as you put it, except on the other side. (He also wants to apply a strategy of "beating the left by...
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