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  1. Skallagrim

    Politicians and Government Cringe Thread

    I guess he was too busy sheltering child molesters from investigation to actually read the full quote. :p Anyway, thanks for the daily chuckle, Miguel-- and now off to the gallows with ye!
  2. Skallagrim

    Politicians and Government Cringe Thread

    The best we can do, afterwards, is not repeat the mistakes that led to this. Bottom line: honest, hard-working people should have a stake in their country and its governance-- and free-loaders should not.
  3. Skallagrim

    Politicians and Government Cringe Thread

    I surely don't disagree with your points. I do note that all of this has pretty much come to pass... since the universal franchise was introduced. Which stands to reason: if any sucker can vote, the most opportunistic and vile politicians can far more easily manipulate the voting cattle (either...
  4. Skallagrim

    Politicians and Government Cringe Thread

    Regardless of what was meant in that post: that is very much how it is in the book. Heinlein explicitly mentions that people who live there have every right that a citizen has, except the right to vote or to hold office. Citizenship is reserved to those who have served, and the franchise is...
  5. Skallagrim

    Politicians and Government Cringe Thread

    Your first argument is "it isn't so because it isn't so", which is recursive, and as such invalid; I trust I needn't explain that to you. Your second argument assumes that because you're "old enough", duty wouldn't apply to you. In my view (as with Heinlein), we'd find something for you to do...
  6. Skallagrim

    Politicians and Government Cringe Thread

    You betray yourself, methinks-- you seem to intuit that you would be on the 'wrong' side of the line. I support the idea precisely because I know I'd be on the other side... and frankly, I don't know about your priorities, but I don't want a bunch of free-loaders to have a say in how my country...
  7. Skallagrim

    Politicians and Government Cringe Thread

    Well... I certainly agree with him. I think people like you, frankly, could use this incentive. ;) (Not that I care what the USA does; that's your business. But I'd want this implemented in my country ASAP. Plus property ownership as a requirement, and a literal poll tax, too.)
  8. Skallagrim

    Politicians and Government Cringe Thread

    Am I missing something? Vivek Ramaswamy was born in Cincinnati and is a US citizen.
  9. Skallagrim

    Politicians and Government Cringe Thread

    The first time around, the economy was about ready to rebound, in the wake of the 2007/2008 disaster. Trump stopped doing the idiotic things Obama had been doing, and did smart things instead. Of course that worked. I think that given that state of things now, a recovery like that will not be...
  10. Skallagrim

    Politicians and Government Cringe Thread

    I really do think that the "time of troubles" that we're falling into is going to occupy the rest of this century. These things have no easy solutions, and entrenched elites always have more staying power than you think.
  11. Skallagrim

    Politicians and Government Cringe Thread

    Things seem to be heading in that direction. Funny thing is, I thought it would take longer, that we'd only see the resurgence of MAGA come '28. But the Democrats (and their RINO friends!) seem dead-set on burning everything down. Which makes my cynical self suspect that it might be just...
  12. Skallagrim

    Politicians and Government Cringe Thread

    Do you guys remember that in the mid-terms during Trump's administration and in the run-up to the 2020 election (also for Congress!), they did everything they could in an attempt to get Republicans and independents to vote for "moderate, reasonable" Republicans? There was the whole astro-turf...
  13. Skallagrim

    Politicians and Government Cringe Thread

    Hey, she had to thank him -- he voted Democrat in the last election!
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