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    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    Because humans are moral actors, animals are not.
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    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    I'm going to point out that pay in company scrip or limited benefits is completely legal as long as minimum wage is met with legal tender. Relatively few places do it because mixed pay is harder to sort out in payroll and you'd have to pay significantly more in scrip to compete with rival...
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    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    Yes, but there's two points against that, one practical and one more philosophical. The practical one is that it's a lot easier to "sell" an education benefit to Congress and the general public than a cash lump sum. The philosophical one is that higher education benefits not only the recipient...
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    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    That's how it worked in Starship Troopers, although not exactly conscription -- while the protagonist characters were Mobile Infantry, it's explicitly mentioned that only a *minority* of citizens completed their Federal Service in the military.
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    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    I don’t see any propaganda about it. Like any sovereign nation, Ukraine has the right to require its citizens to serve.
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    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    In every case I've seen, the proposals for non-citizen voting 1) fall within the legitimate range of local/state sovereignty, and 2) are limited to local issues where the argument is that it's reasonable for all residents to vote on them. While the wisdom is debatable, it's not really breaching...
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    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    But jury duty isn't being done for free. It's part of a citizen's duty to support their nation, and they are "paid" for it with the rights and privileges of citizens, as opposed to the much more limited set of rights that are granted to legal residents and persons in general.
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    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    Jury duty has been part of the Western tradition of citizenship since forever, so trying to reframe it as some socialist oppression is just mind boggling levels of historical revisionism to me.
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    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    Jury duty isn't supposed to be a money-making job, it's your *duty* as a citizen. Getting travel covered is already pretty generous.
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    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    My opinion is this: citizenship is a package deal that includes legal rights, privileges, and duties. If you're unwilling to take on the duties of a citizen, you should not get the rights and privileges either; this is why I'm very judgmental of people who don't bother voting and who try to...
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    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    Note that when the military under Obama rescinded its official determination that women are categorically and inherently unfit for combat roles, there was a *lot* of uncomfortable heming and hawing over whether this meant that the SCOTUS precedent now meant women could serve, or merely that a...
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    Military Debate: Is Conscription Moral?

    You may note that a significant number of women's rights groups agree with that, to the point of filing civil rights lawsuits to be included in the draft. SCOTUS ultimately quashed that argument by ruling that the military's official determination that women are unfit for combat service was an...
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