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That self loathing turns into anger against people trying to help them when they are confronted with things they can change. That is why I said two sides of the same coin.

My Father was 55 years old when He married my mother. And she was 25. They were married for 25 years before he died. Nothing creepy about it at all. Incels don't want to take advice on self improvement when they ask you specifically. They don't want to hear about habits they have that are...

Incels and feminists are too sides of the same coin. I have come to this realization after talking with a shit ton of incels. All and I mean all of them have been just as toxic as the feminsts. So pox on both houses as far as I am concerned.