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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    The reason for the opposition to Gay Marriage, at least at a movement/strategic level, was never about Gay Marriage. Heck, Democrat / Progressive support for Gay Marriage at a strategic level was ALSO never about Gay Marriage. It was always about damaging Christian Churches. Starting in the...
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    ^ This. And one should always bear in mind that Plessy v Furguson was very much in the venue of "judicial activism" in that it created a new law ("separate but equal") where there was no such requirement in the original text of the 14th Amendment. As such, Brown V. Board was rightly decided...
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Permanent MFN status was granted to China in 2000, signed into law by Bill Clinton. While there were Republicans who voted on it as well as sponsored and co-sponsered it, it was largely a bipartisan bill and in the time period there was sever pushback from the Conservative Republicans and...
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    OK, at least you recognize a lot of the stuff was literally out of his ability to do, as in, not even in the purview of the power of the President type stuff. Honestly though, I think they should feel less betrayed by Trump than by the Bureaucratic Establishment. Even had he tried to actively...
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    So what issues did they feel Trump sold out on specifically? I'm struggling to think of issues where he actually made any real compromises with the left on things that could be seen as "selling out".
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Yes? But not because it's about being gay. Consider the framework of Christianity, within that idea who defines Sin is not Christians or even the Church, but God. So they would be, functionally, saying that they know better than God what is and what is not Sinful. Which well, means that...
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    From a religious perspective, this would still be sinful, and Christians are called to holiness (that is, living as God wants them to); however, Christians acknowledge that even when saved they are still fallen and prone to sin. It would likely be understood in a similar manner to a person with...
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    . . . Are you purposefully diminishing Washington or just ignorant? While Jefferson was the primary author of the Declaration of Independence, it was heavily revised by committee at the time, and, George Washington was a member of said committee as, yanno, he actually signed the thing. As to...
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