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  1. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    Jesus, did your mom make the nuggies a little cold this morning or something?
  2. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    The definition you gave is the one typically given in political science introductions, it doesn't make much sense for anyone to be arguing against it. That is the generally accepted definition of a state
  3. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    Good, the more they do this the more they discredit "white supremacist!" as a political attack as everyone sees this for what it is. If Justice Brown is a white supremacist than white supremacy is not at all what the average person has considered it to be. By their standard harriet tubman was...
  4. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    Actually it does, since your point was that this "doesn't matter" and it very much does matter. It directly contradicts your point. That's leaving aside the fact that your "point" (meaning the second half where you claim Manhattan property is worthless) is completely retarded and inaccurate to...
  5. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    I repeat:
  6. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    half the country doesn't care and regardless rich foreigners will continue buying up property in new york keeping the price high. Regardless of your thoughts on this, Trump and any other sane person would be pissed to have buildings in Manhattan stolen from them.
  7. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    Are you high? Manhattan is the most expensive place to own property in the United States, his buildings there are not worthless
  8. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    Where's your proof that more than a handful were even taking part to begin with?
  9. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    2024 was always a long shot, but 2028 he's likely the nominee when it's not a competition with Trump. No, DeSantis biggest problem is that Trump sees him as a threat and has since he lost the election. DeSantis has done nothing "to himself" and he will rapidly recover over the next couple of...
  10. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    According to who? Vivek and Trump? A lot can happen in four years. The only reason DeSantis is behind in the polls is because he's the only actual contender to Trump and thus Trump has dedicated his entire campaign to attacking DeSantis. We'll see how well this holds in four years when he's...
  11. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    You're right but it may just become the only practical thing to do if every president comes in and fires the entire executive bureaucracy on day 1. It would take a few cycles, but these orgs would stop getting funding over time imo.
  12. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    Personally I think states should get to choose both their senators and who they support for president anyway they want. Between this and all of the state indictments it's interesting to see the left start to become states rights advocates. If Trump gets elected again they're almost certain to...
  13. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    Maybe this will be what's found, but this isn't the case yet as we've yet to see a former president prosecuted for anything other than a drunk and disorderly. We are entirely in unprecedented territory here where the outcome of this case either reaffirms the status quo or upends the presidency...
  14. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    I don't disagree here on the why, but the question remains on whose authority is the president restricted. The executive can't restrict the president because the president *is* the executive. The legislative doing so sparks a constitutional crisis if pressed, as the president can argue this is...
  15. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    This is what I've been trying to say lol. All of this "precedent" is based around executive authority and Trump was the executive. It's definitely going to the supreme court and I'd be very surprised if this court didn't toss it out and reaffirm everything we've said here. Of course the left...
  16. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    Upon what authority is this based? If legislation, I'd be curious how well that would hold up if pressed since that gets into separation of powers territory.
  17. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    Executive orders are not legislation dude, they are orders from the president. Trump was the president when he took the documents, therefore it's at his discretion *HOW* declassification even works. This is like saying Biden breaks the law when he goes against one of Trumps executive orders.
  18. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    No it isn't, that's the point. A totally normal aspect of our politics is now being treated as some crime for partisan reasons, up until last year this was not considered "nonsense" and it was widely known all presidents do this. Even Biden has done the exact same as vice president. The...
  19. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    No you're not getting the simplicity of all of this. Did he break in to the white house after he was president and steal these documents, or did the sitting president take them with him? If the latter (which is the case) the implication is he declassified them, period. Sounds to me like he...
  20. Poe

    Trump Investigations Thread

    Did you not disregard someone else's source, due to it's bias, a few days ago? Then unironically post CNN? You have got to be trolling at this point.
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