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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011227-2.html It was signed by George W Bush in 2001. At the very least, he should get equal blame with Clinton.
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    The Sietch is quite a bit loonier than the right in its entirety.
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    People know the difference between political conservatism and environmental conservatism, Bacle. That's not what we're talking about here. They are pretty much your honest enemy, politically. Though I'll admit, the fact that a lot of people on this forum really, really love traditional...
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Conservative decadence is as much to blame as any other ideology. We traded our equity and our independence away for cheaply made foreign baubles. It was a Republican who opened the door to an "alliance" with China to try and weaken the USSR. It was a Republican who gave China permanent MFN...
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Conservativism is about conserving traditional ideologies. That's part of the reason why I didn't vote for Trump.* Because I agree with you that Trump represents an 'adapt or die' sect of conservatism, and honestly... I'm just not interested. I'm not that Conservative, and Trump's populism has...
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    In that case you aren't really 'conservative' as the people here understand it. You're just advocating a movement to kill 'conservativism' (as people here understand it) off so that your ideology can take its name in order to claim its legitimacy in the eyes of the population. Trump is not a...
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    And this kind of stuff is why I told Bacle I wonder why most people here on The Sietch even call themselves Conservative.
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    I'm not saying that's how I think things should be; I'm saying that's how I think things are.
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Then you have to understand that most conservatives aren't going to see you as a conservative at all. To most conservatives, the ideas of political freedom and the 2nd Amendment are important primarily because of how they serve religious and traditional values. In other words, to most...
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Bacle, what exactly makes you Right-wing or conservative? (Genuine question, and don't feel called out, because I'm honestly confused about why most of the people on The Sietch consider themselves Right-wing or conservative, at least in the American sense of those terms.)
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Question: Do you honestly believe there are thousands of trans athletes in American sports? What do you think the numbers are? Because whatever it is, its insignificant enough that there are no statistics on it. And even then, what less than .1% (anyone who thinks there are more than 1400...
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Yes, that's a pretty good ballpark number for how many trans there are in professional sports in the US. If you look at the "notable trans athletes" on Wikipedia, its so specific that its listing individual college-level players. Many of the people listed are no longer in sports. Trans people...
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    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Trans athletes are like .001% of trans people. Same for Trans in the military. "Part of the issues with Ts is something .002% of Trans people do." .002% of a given demographic are exploiting things they shouldn't be exploiting? Stop the presses! You're basically doing the standard dog whistle...
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