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  1. Morphic Tide

    Dystopian Europe

    The Nazis were vigorously against Global Revolutionary Socialists, yet they went pretty damned hard on dragging corporations under the party's thumb, handouts for workers, and general autistic central planning. They were not hardline "abolish all property" Marxists, but their economic policies...
  2. Morphic Tide

    Dystopian Europe

    "Done their best" is not the original point of contention. Your original comparison was that I am saying God must be evil for not averting people screwing themselves over, when the entire point is that I find God destestible for not averting people's actions screwing over other people. And the...
  3. Morphic Tide

    Dystopian Europe

    Do you expect organized violence as the basic standard? One good man trying to fistfight them is just another person getting their legs sawn off. Fifty good men doing so one by one is much the same. Ten good men getting together might take out one or two, but are hardly going to stop it...
  4. Morphic Tide

    Dystopian Europe

    And the people dragged into the muck by them, who actively objected to the band's formation? We've rather conclusively proven the Bystander Effect, as well as mob mentalities, and a number of other vital-to-society-working factors of human nature that greatly counter-indicate the reasonableness...
  5. Morphic Tide

    Dystopian Europe

    It is not "saw own leg off". It is "roaming band of 20 barge into house after house and saw the legs off the residents in far smaller groups than themselves". Propaganda, censorship, and social leverage are very real things things. Morale is a thing. Every single step of the way, the people...
  6. Morphic Tide

    Dystopian Europe

    The only way your sentiment is able to be put into practice is a comprehensive and shameless theocracy. Because people do not actually work that way, and many of these cases involve tiny-ass groups of people going after what are much more obviously nasty targets, like the Nazi Party proper's...
  7. Morphic Tide

    Dystopian Europe

    The bit that locks this in is the way that most churches, including no small part of the Catholic and Orthodox, have adopted this position over vastly more than in the 16th century due to so many claimed events being clearly impossible by all known physics with no available corroboration outside...
  8. Morphic Tide

    Dystopian Europe

    But it isn't "their own way". Millions upon millions who wanted nothing to do with it dragged into the killing. This is far beyond Sodom and Gomorrah, this is far beyond every example of God stepping in in some way. And yet there's nothing solid. In the face of losing a large share of the...
  9. Morphic Tide

    Dystopian Europe

    It isn't "Christians did this", it's "God didn't stop this". The World Wars "broke Christianity" because if God would not visibly step in for that, then is He actually worthy of reverence? It is functionally a disproof of omnibenevolence, which is critical to quite a lot of Christian theology...
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