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  1. Morphic Tide

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    The absence of formal recognition means that bringing them to account for abuses is not an overthrow of the system, but an enforcement of it, meaning that corrections have no requirement to be violent like the times the British Crown were dragged to the table in chains to confirm limits on their...
  2. Morphic Tide

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    "Human nature" does not include being able to casually bubble off into a 2% margin and see absolutely nothing but agreement from thousands upon thousands of people. "Human nature" does not include having such a ludicrous overabundance of food that you throw away enough to feed another three...
  3. Morphic Tide

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    This assumes that human nature is dramatically more significant than the societal structures developed by increasingly capable and unnatural lifestyles. It's a limiting factor to variance, but to assume that just because we've not had appreciable genetic changes we cannot have radically altered...
  4. Morphic Tide

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    It would be immensely valuable if you would actually use examples from them instead of constantly reinforcing the misconception by referencing only the Roman case that we have dozens of systematic differences from which render the exact causation literally impossible. None of Rome's results...
  5. Morphic Tide

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Really can't find myself to be bothered rereading thousands upon thousands of words of somebody basically ignoring all the structural differences to focus on trying to shoe-horn modern events into being the grand total of the second iteration of a cycle over the literal entirety of recorded...
  6. Morphic Tide

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Except that human nature alone doesn't generate the damn Roman Empire, you have to have fairly particular combinations of social factors going on to get that going, and the simple fact of the matter is that so many of the requirements with regard to resource paradigms or political organization...
  7. Morphic Tide

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    The "scarce means" aren't a constant, though. The Industrial Revolution fundamentally altered the nature of scarcity by shifting it to scarcity of labor instead of scarcity of land. The recent push for automation is moving scarcity to be purely about raw materials, which was not historically the...
  8. Morphic Tide

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    (quoting into the more-relevant thread) We aren't, though. The Neolithic Revolution ushered in multi-millennia standards of many, many kinds, of which virtually none are actually alive today. Up until the Industrial Revolution, subsistence agriculture was the lifeblood of the economy. Up until...
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