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  1. Megadeath

    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    Well, it's certainly interesting that there's such a high degree of certainty about what the data shows when it was apparently never published, and was subsequently totally deleted. It's also interesting to note that if we trust the assertion, 2-2.5 million defensive gun uses doesn't just beat...
  2. Megadeath

    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    Are other causes broken down? Coz, even using such catch all's as "motor vehicles" "Other injuries" or "congenital disease" you still don't get another category as high as guns. And you say that like 20% of youth death being to guns is some minor thing. It's really not. It's ridiculous that...
  3. Megadeath

    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    Could you show us that study?
  4. Megadeath

    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    Uh huh... I don't actually get what your point is? If you look at figures that aren't 7 years old, you'll see that guns have overtaken motor vehicles as the leading cause of death for under 18. All the justification around that doesn't change it either. How do you think the numbers compare with...
  5. Megadeath

    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    TIL that the leading cause of death for children and teens in the US is gun violence.
  6. Megadeath

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    Maybe, depends what exactly was claimed by both people involved, and what further details came out when. Until the police knew the specifics, charging him to be safe was the right thing to do and so was dropping the charges as soon as they were clear on what happened. Neither article really...
  7. Megadeath

    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    Huh, sounds from the very next post like the justice system worked just fine this time.
  8. Megadeath

    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    That's a hell of a thing to hear about the person who just called me a paedophile. Glad to hear you think he's an okay chap though.
  9. Megadeath

    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    He said, to a room full of people he already knew agreed with him on the subject.
  10. Megadeath

    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    Why does it have to be instead of? I think it's worth considering both means and motivation. Drugs that are only harmful in potential suicide are restricted on that basis alone. Reducing the means often does as much to limit numbers as reducing motive. Man, you really need to work on your...
  11. Megadeath

    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    America has an unusually high rate of suicide. When we consider that most suicide is more "opportunistic" rather than planned, and that guns are hands down highest scoring across quick, painless and irrevocable, it's not unreasonable to consider the people who only successfully attempt to kill...
  12. Megadeath

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    Who said anything about banning anything? All I've said is that a disproportionately large number of Americans die gun deaths, and that Americans are more likely to be murdered than other first world nationals.
  13. Megadeath

    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    The suicides are an important part of the statistic, because they are often deaths that wouldn't happen without that easy access to firearms. Suicide is usually a snap decision by someone going through a crisis moment. The easier and quicker the means of suicide that is available, the more...
  14. Megadeath

    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    In which of the incidents I mentioned were "criminals killed by their would be victims"? How well did the idea that only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun work out in any of those recent tragedies?
  15. Megadeath

    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    The violence in Boulder was America’s seventh mass shooting in seven days. On March 16, eight people were killed as a gunman attacked a series of spas in Atlanta, Georgia. The next day, five people were injured in a drive-by shooting in Stockton, California. On March 18, four people were shot...
  16. Megadeath

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    Not directly, no. But it does say "No restrictions" which would inherently cover everything from machine guns to nuclear weapons. There's also this post, which I didn't quote, but was responding to: See, you're talking about loosening restrictions on machine guns, whereas other people are...
  17. Megadeath

    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    @LindyAF Uh huh... Except my posts initially are in response to people talking about making armed tanks, cruise missiles, destroyers, or even nuclear weapons legal. So, none of what you said was actually relevant to that.
  18. Megadeath

    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    Jeez, cbf to argue the same hyperbolic point with the nth autistic nitpicker making the same point. So, let's bring the argument back: People think they should be allowed more unfettered access to arms, so they can exert influence on the government/resist government influence. Unfettered access...
  19. Megadeath

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    Why would Russia or China not be quite happy to sell to them, when it lets them grow their native defence industries and screw with the US government? Why do you think American arms manufacturers would buck at selling to to fine upstanding Americans when they're fine selling to dealers who work...
  20. Megadeath

    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    You do realise that there's more than just one guy, and the rich people are very rich indeed? If say, Bezos, Musk and Gates wanted to, they could outspend Russian defence expenditure. Now, they're among the richest for sure but they're not the only ones. Add in the rest of the mega rich elite...
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