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That doesn't make sense. She's not being kept from court and presenting her evidence. She's being required to do so in fact. She's the one who's making the desperate ploy to avoid having to present evidence. Dominion basically told her to put up or shut up, and her response was very strongly the...

So... She's an idiot? If the evidence is so clear and obvious she ought to welcome her day in court to show it, rather than trying for a motion to dismiss that undercuts her own position and insults her own supporters. Like I said, even questionable evidence would be better. The point is, the...

..? You realise she's now basically conceded her claims? Her case isn't trying to argue that her claims were true so they can't be defamation, but that her "opinions and legal theories" were so "wild" and "outlandish" that no reasonable person would believe them to be statements of fact. That...

That's sort of a half truth. Thing is, there's a difference between a lawyer saying "We believe the defendant to be guilty, and believe the evidence will show it in court." and "The rat bastards are guilty as hell, and I've got mountains of evidence to prove it!" and there's a reason why every...

What @Terthna said basically. Obviously if Spartan doesn't want to reply I understand, I was more using his post as one obvious spring board to discuss something that I think seems clearly relevant to the thread. Also consider that almost all legal developments occur at a glacial pace. It's only...

It would seem she did not deserve such benefit. It's kind of sad and a little ironic that she's now basically calling the people who supported her unreasonable.

Low and behold, @Terthna once again made an entirely bullshit claim, in this case directly after a post that shows exactly how wrong he is. And notably his response is nothing. "Oh, none of the courts would even listen to the evidence!" Well, guess what; they did! There was no evidence of...

Jesus, and you had a go at me for persistence and repetition? Remember that, and how the fact this claim is false was actually addressed then, along with other times previously? Cases were heard, and evidence was presented. Where do you think things like the "non-zero number of people in the...

Several of those sworn affidavits were specifically found to be implausible, impossible, self contradictory or simply confused. Yet, despite courts finding that several of the sworn affidavits were likely untrue and quite possibly intentionally so, there was no prosecutions for perjury. The...

I mean, I have nothing but respect for him either, and I'm not actually accusing him specifically of lying. But even if literally everything he says is true and interpreted in the worst possible light, it's not evidence of voter fraud, or vote tampering. He hasn't made an argument. He's made a...

That's neat. So rather than evidence, we can just go on our gut feeling and personal faith in anecdote, and that somehow overrides the fact that the Trump legal team couldn't prove fraud, indeed couldn't even find enough evidence to be willing to allege it in court? Your personal trust means...

No. No amount of "This guy on the internet says that he saw something that seemed suspicious." Is ever evidence. Least of all on an issue where tens of thousands of people have demonstrated quite clearly that they're perfectly willing to do far worse than lie on the 'net to support their cause...

And yet, it was refuted. In court, repeatedly.

He was a morally reprehensible, egomaniacal moron, who ultimately achieved nothing that will outlive his time in office, except damaging the American public's faith in democracy and the world's opinion of America. That's my opinion, anyway.

I mean, she supports the qanon idiocy, so I'd think it's more the latter but nothing precludes it being both.

That's quite simply not true. There were plenty of cases where what "evidence" existed was examined. That's why we have quotes from judges describing various affidavits as contradictory, implausible and simply reflecting a lack of understanding of the procedures involved. It's also where we got...

You shouldn't worry; there's no reason to think any such thing happened before so there's no precedent to worry about it happening now. And even when they do lose fairly, I'm sure we can count on trump trying to pressure officials to find votes for his preferred candidates a few months from now...

There's been well over 10,000 associated arrests, so it would seem they are in fact bound by the law.

That's a statement so blatantly obvious as to be pointless, and the understatement approaches british humour levels. The world would suffer if their was an Italian or Spanish civil war. If America ever actually reached that point it would upend the entire global order and the all western or...

Sorry, I guess I should have said "meaningful fraud" especially with this propensity you've demonstrated for the politicians trick of answering the question you wish you'd been asked rather than the one in front of you. To wit; in what way were the numbers given inaccurate, and how was I...