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    I'm not calling everything Kremlin propaganda, stop fucking clowning, consider the thread, i'm calling shilling for Kremlin's interests Kremlin propaganda. And nope, failing to bow to foreign policy pet peeves of leftists, pacifists and other navel gazing idiots is not a flaw, it's paying...
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    There is a difference between desired result and a temporary step, its not semantics. Kremlin propaganda is a real thing, if you think its not, i have a bridge in Moscow to sell you. And your attempt replication of SJW guiltmongering has been noted and will not be forgotten. Who the fuck do you...
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    No, Russia's desired result is Belarus Redux in every ex-Soviet/WP state ideally. However, "fractured and balkanized state" is a temporary intermediate step they are willing to live with, awaiting opportunities to make further steps towards the desired state. Also Russia's gripe with Ukraine was...
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    No, that's not exactly what was on that tape. Quote it for me. I will not take journo tricks from you, better journos than you try all the time. Cool story bro. But... apples to oranges. For one Ukraine is a country over an order of magnitude larger than Georgia, both in size and population, so...
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    It's ridiculous that you can be so sure that Ukrainians totally didn't want their current government, no matter what polls, next elections, or even the tribute in blood they pay fighting Russia rather than scurrying away shows, but at the same time be convinced that the Donbass rebellion, oh...
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    Bull fucking shit. Ukraine has beef with Iran over the Russia support, out of all countries, it would not be them. WTF do they care about crippling Ukraine? Also Ukraine is less crippled militarily than it was in 2014, all thanks to Russia making itself a very obvious enemy, which Ukraine...
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    Where the fuck do you get Ukraine supporting Hamas, did you fall for that FSB psyop? Pointless. They could have had a meatgrinder anywhere else if they wanted one. As above. Ukraine's demographics are as fucked as those of ethnic Russians anyway, depopulaated, LMAO, lay off the vatnik copium...
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    Only in Russian propaganda, they had a few crude tries facilitated with captured infantry weapons but stopped when no one important fell for it, only some retards on the internet. You don't see Stugnas or Starstreaks showing up in Africa, that's a fact. If they are selling something off, it's...
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    FFS, this stubborn, long lasting use of the whole "but no oversight" talking point means you either are writing about something you have no idea about and no interest in getting one, yet you do it, or are playing some stupid game. I don't know where exactly you got the idea that there isn't any...
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    Seem you didn't even attempt to convince me, did you just expected your "enlightened fence sitting" to be impressively moderate enough to impress people just by being that? Some people meanwhile look at the sum of things. Worst light possible? It is you who described Ukraine's government as...
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    But there always was oversight. It's just that the people who whine about the lack of oversight don't want to dig through very boring documents on obscure government sites or think tank sites like this, and probably don't want to complain about insufficient amounts of such documents that they...
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    So i was right, you are trying to set up a completely non-serious, obsessive fence sitting based policy based on waving arms, parroting the arguments of the side you say is bad, no matter how malicious and inaccurate, and saying that while the bad side should be opposed, on the other hand...
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    For example, here and here. You say supporting "western Ukraine" is not a virtue because they have a government of crooks bigots and murderers, West has propped up Ukrainian nationalists and started the conflict, which you say is about NATO encroachment on Russia. And then you are acting...
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    As for your faction alignment that i'm finding abominable, the last sentence of this much earlier post sums it up well. Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more) Sorry, but i'm not interested in...
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    Likewise, you stubbornly represent an abominable political faction from my perspective. And you can stop expecting, you deserve scorn for the word games you try to play with me, not an apology for not letting you win these games. Backtrack? If you think i'm backtracking, i have a genuine time...
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    Not for anyone. I can point you to several cases of me disagreeing with people over different things without "unrestrained hatred". The hatred is reserved for certain specific kinds of disagreements, you can pattern recognize which. Because the very Maidan coup theory is one convergent with the...
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    No, i'm accusing everyone yelling that they just know USA blew up NS because reasons (insert a bunch of half assed conspirationist logic jumps) of "simping for Putin-senpai". In fact on this very page on the thread i outright said that the Ukraine variant is more plausible than accusing USA of...
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    Yeah, SD, because Germany and other countries have no journo shits making clickbait, only SD can post dumb clickbait stories into the ether... Get real, we both know that with a little conspirationist bullshitry you can support any narrative in any situation, but you should know that this won't...
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    No i'm not. As i said, i don't know, and you people who say "i know it USA did it!" know even less, you just repeat shit that fits your pre-assumed agenda conveniently and don't give a damn about anything else. Whoever did it, knew that the list of potential suspects is long and will be hard to...
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    Russian internal politics be crazy. People can get assassinated over shady income streams, nevermind war politics and attempts to interfere in them on account of some oligarch's sweet deal. Blowing shit up is absolutely within the realm of possibility there. And that's just one option. And...
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