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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    But who is going to support that solution in political and economic realms, without which it is impossible, and how many will consider that independence? Reality called... Unfortunately Jerusalem is only 2% Christian, so doing that is unrealistic. Meanwhile what foreign country with enough pull...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    Either way, they don't fit the conflict as neutral party. Why not Serbs while at it? :cool:
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    >Pakistanis and Nigerians >Good record as peacekeepers You have an odd sense of humor. Or a vendetta against Palestinian children... And yet again you touch on an issue yet don't hit it. Peacekeepers need to be neutral, not clearly biased for one side. Pakistanis and most Muslim countries for...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    >International Control That touches upon the greatest problem in solving this conflict. Everyone wants to virtue signal and seem enlightened and legal and moral and shit... But that doesn't change the fact that as far as facts on the ground are a total mess that no one sane wants to stick their...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    Even it only 50k remain, that's still plenty enough to tempt spectacular enough incidents. Lots of self-selection, outright natural selection, being raised under Israeli culture and education, and subtle group allegiances among Arabs (like Druze or Bedouins not really caring much about...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    That part is an impractical and dangerous delusion, pretty much guaranteeing low intensity warfare to arise there for good in the areas covered. Which is a reason why Israel won't go for it. They would have to be insane to first leave half a million of their own citizens, highly nationalistic...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    In the grand scheme of things, i think there is simply no route to a stable peace for the foreseeable future. Not until islamism stops being a major fixture in Arab politics, and not as long as the situation is a part of greater Arab politics and cannot be affected in a predictable manner...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    Well he does represent the main militant organization of the time (and the current one is only a more radical offshot of it), so yeah, as far as arguing for such moves in the name of threat reduction in Middle East goes, these are the people you have to deal with, not any more or less real...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    No, it will give them one less reason out of very many. For example, Osama Bin Laden's writings on the subject are widely available, and a good example of a militantly hostile representative of Arab world. Palestine is of course part of his litany of grievances against USA... But its just one of...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    Israel could probably do well enough without the aid. But if you think this will make the Muslim world like you, you are dreaming.
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    So, have you thought about why the Egyptians hate their fellow Muslims so much? Oh, wait, Gaza shelters Egypt's terrorists... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinai_insurgency#In_the_Gaza_Strip Cool move, that's how you make other countries like you. Not. The blockade is mostly about keeping...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    It was aimed at this.
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    FFS, Jews move to another continent, and in few decades they are yet again told to give up lebensraum to a different group that can't stop expanding.
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    Mostly in keeping the current government from getting swept by all sorts of moderate beheaders. They are kinda busy competing with local moderate beheaders, and that in turn makes them realize that dealing with even a real, modern military, even a small one, would be very unwise, even if they...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    To the courts and to the voters, because both can throw a wrench into that plan. If ME goes to shit because someone takes opportunity to try rearrange its shape, there won't be anything worth sending through the straits, and USA would need clever leadership to be able to fully rely on own oil...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    To justify that logic you would have to do the same with most of other left wing and other international humanitarian organizations. Forgot the part where you convince the US population that gasoline prices aren't something to get mad over.
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    The simple point is that in the Islamic world, separation of religion and state is a curious imported foreign concept at best, and outright blasphemy at worst, while in the west it was originally a political compromise reinforced by treaties after everyone finally got sick of the...
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    What do you think the US's policy towards Israel should be?

    Israel didn't really have choice in the matter considering how DNC changed since the Cold War. Back then, just like with GOP, ME was strategic great power game business first. GOP is still willing to offer them that deal and even more, rightfully or not. Israel could agree with this strategic...
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