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    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    For example suicides are broken down by methods - firearms, suicides and drugs being the notable ones, of roughly similar scale. But if you added up all suicides regardless by method they would be bigger than homicides, especially homicides by gun. This is "have you stopped beating your wife"...
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    Guns don't kill people. Criminals kills people (after all, accidents are shown to be minimal, even suicides aren't that big a factor, and it's not like homicides disappear in countries with gun control, see Mexico). That's the point. While the clickbaity term "leading cause" really means...
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    Yer worse than CNN. You should feel ashamed. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/19/health/homicide-child-death/index.html CNN even links to specific breakdowns that clearly point to less PC conclusions, like "homicide" replacing "gun violence" with guns being merely the most common tool, and the...
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    Wow, wonder what will the many movie and videogame companies in California have to say about this thing. Plenty of guns shown in those...
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    Also capability, psychological and physical. It's a noted fact that criminals are less likely to reoffend once they get old, whether they get old in prison or not, as they get weaker and less aggressive with age and falling testosterone levels.
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    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    Umm, no? Was the proverbial wild west sheriff ever forbidden from using any gun or armor he wished and could afford? The problem is that the government has increasingly diverse ways to ruin you with decreasing accountability and conditions limiting their use, not that the police has tools for...
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    Back to the legal/politics system. Try that and see what the legal system and politicians make out of you.
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    Because criminals can have all that stuff too, and some even do get that kind of stuff (see: cartels, certain crazies). And even if they didn't, police doesn't exist to give criminals a fair fight, but to crush them with, ideally, no losses. As this very issue demonstrates, the real issues lie...
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    Of course there is a high chance they would poison it, or outright openly refuse for "not going far enough". After all, if it passes, what else are they going to put as the reasonable "face" of their next "common sense" proposition?
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    Forbes article on that explains in detail why, unlike the vague others: https://www.forbes.com/sites/annakaplan/2021/12/03/michigan-school-shooting-suspects-parents-charged-with-involuntary-manslaughter/ Long story short, they knew he's planning something, and were notified by school, yet...
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    >unusually high suicide rate That is a claim about facts which in turn you use to build a whole narrative, lets see if facts agree in the first place. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/ranking/suicide-rate That's 4 sources...
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    Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

    The counterargument to the car comparison is that when it comes to licensing, the #1 worry and cause of public concern is completely different between cars and guns. With cars, it is by far unintentional accidents and DUI accidents. Hence the focus on training, restrictions and extra training...
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