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    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Bolter_Ammunition?file=BolterAmmo.png Bolter Ammunition
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    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    Some wiki articles and cutaways of frag bolts show them having a proximity detonator. Also, due to bolt rounds being part rocket, i'd wonder if their design could cheat a little bit and re-use the left over rocket section of the bolt as additional fragmentation material. The 20mm OICW...
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    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    But is it worth it? How much of a las weapon can the armor's power pack handle piggybacking on without major drawbacks? If it's civilian laspistol level of energy output, no wonder Astartes would rather use melee. Astartes do have actually decent las weapons, lascannons which some Astartes even...
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    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    Canister inherently has crap range, while bolters can accurately shoot to several hundreds of meters at minimum.
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    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    Again, loose assumption. Some targets are just still plain people who also die to normal crappy guns. Also fragmentation doesn't need to immediately drop targets to be worthwhile. If it bleeds...
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    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    Those are pretty bad assumptions. 5 grams of explosive weaksauce WW2 20mm standard. 6-12 is about the norm for WW2 20mm. 17 is 20mm mineshell. Modern 20mm HEI used in US aircraft has 10g and 2g incendiary, also giving casulty radius of 2m and hazard radius of 20m, while, as you can see, the...
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    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    In that case bolters would have no excuse to be as big and heavy as they are. Gyrojets had next to no recoils and very little barrel heating and pressure compared to normal firearms, in fact lighter than normal guns due to it. Bolters? The most explanatory option seems to be that they are a two...
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    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    Not really. Considering the barrel lengths, weights and the firing effects, those are more like something between gyrojets and rocket assisted projectiles than rocket launchers.
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    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    >lil hole A bigger hole than a fucking .50 cal rifle. Against infantry, why even bother at that point, while a plain AP rounds is much cheaper. Then why is every single one of them noted to carry a combination of AP and HE rounds, and usually more HE than AP while at it? And? Do not...
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    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    If fragmentation wasn't doing much of the damage, why would they even bother using anything other than AP rounds, especially on the armored car mounted autocannons? Also for living targets often a wound that doesn't kill often takes out someone from the fight for a time. And they definitely...
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    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    Of course HE-FRAG autocannon rounds are not meant for attacking trenches... In WW2, aircraft, light vehicle and SPAAG mounted 20mm autocannons they were always noted to be downright scary effective against infantry. If those worked, why do you think some of higher level 40k technology can't do...
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    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    A flak vest doesn't cover the entire body. Your average cultist or boy is not decked out in armor like a stormtrooper. As the saying goes, if it bleeds... Sure it wouldn't work against all opponents, but metal storm bolts are considered specialist ammo against masses of mooks, they have other...
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    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    You are underestimating the utility of such ammo. Originally, after all, they aren't even made with manpower as their main target, but a weapon against aircraft and light vehicles. They don't need to drop the target where it stands, they are however plenty effective enough in inflicting lots of...
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    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    Of course you don't fire frag rounds, .75 or 1 inch, against an armored target like a Warrior Prime. Small frag weapons are meant against hordes of gaunts, boyz or crazy cultists. And even with modern technology a 20mm frag ammo can be effective enough to be worth using, see: all the WW2 20mm...
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    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    Why even bother with a grenade launcher on a bolter when you can just load a mag of metal storm bolts and turn it into a frag grenade dispenser. And yes , 20-30 round mags are the norm.
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