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  1. LordsFire

    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    Yes, AI produced novels. Like so: https://www.hogwartsishere.com/library/book/9290/chapter/1/ Real killer, that. AI is improving. Machine learning is improving. But there are still fundamental constraints it operates under, that if it every overcomes, will take a very long time indeed to do...
  2. LordsFire

    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    It's just as bad as trying to argue with you over the idea of 'food insecurity.' If you're just going to drop into personal attacks, especially when I am using directly sourced data to make my point, I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you. Here: Maybe you'll listen to Sowell.
  3. LordsFire

    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    No, we've been exploring that primarily through more advanced technology making labor more efficient. Education fills a head with knowledge, some of which might be false. It has its use, but better tools and actual work experience are what improve 'how well humans can accomplish things.' It's...
  4. LordsFire

    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    A horse and an AI have more in common with each other, than a human. A horse can do a very few things better than a human can. It can lift and carry larger loads, and run faster. A human is more durable, adaptable, intelligent, capable of finer manipulation, more flexible, etc, etc. An AI can...
  5. LordsFire

    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    You appear to have completely missed the point of my post. New jobs that we have not yet invented. What specific jobs? I could tell you what some will be around the edges, but for the most part I don't know. Why don't I know? For the same reason that a novelist in the 1920's couldn't tell you...
  6. LordsFire

    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    It's not population growth; the population growth rate post-1980 compared to the 1950-1980 period was much higher. One major part of it is the normalization of women working full-time; if you double the availability of labor, that certainly has an effect on the balance point between supply and...
  7. LordsFire

    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    I think you misunderstand. Better manually-operated machine tools already have made assembly lines more efficient, and require less manpower for the same amount of product, or generate more product for the same amount of manpower. I'm not saying 'magically we will no longer need human labor,'...
  8. LordsFire

    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    What will we do when 90% of all jobs (farming) become obsolete due to tractors, combine harvesters, and other machine tools? What will we do when assembly lines become more efficient, and less employees are needed to do the same work? Oh wait, these things already happened. And specifically...
  9. LordsFire

    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    I hadn't known that they had to recalibrate the IQ scale down again, so you've got a fair point one me there. As to the rest of it though, it's mostly irrelevant, or you're making false equivalencies. A horse is not a human. What happened prior to the rise of civilization with dinosaurs and...
  10. LordsFire

    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    It's not a strawman, it's part of why things won't work the way you think. A robot used for manufacturing strictly adds value to the economy. I'd say it's a producer, but not a consumer, unlike a human being, but it's not even that. It's a tool, which enhances the production of human beings...
  11. LordsFire

    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    This assumption has been wrong, and will continue to be wrong for the rest of human history. First off, because there will always be more things that people want. Second, because robots, in economic terminology, are tools, not consumers. They produce goods at the behest of who owns them, but...
  12. LordsFire

    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    The thing is, the same culture and mentality that leads to BLS, will never accept removing other all the other programs in addition. You might get some programs removed, but you'll never get all of them removed, and when the BLS proves not to 'solve' the problem of 'poverty' just like every...
  13. LordsFire

    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    Well, this is a good thing. A nice partial trial run to demonstrate to the rest of the nation why BLS and the like are terrible plans.
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