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  1. LordsFire

    United States Why Do Libertarians Always Lose?

    The high-ups in the Democrat party do generally love China. They can't say much about it, but how soft they've been on them (and some of the shit the Clinton administration was implicated with letting them get access to), you can see the hard left's usual idolization and enamorment with...
  2. LordsFire

    United States Why Do Libertarians Always Lose?

    You know, having grown up among Evangelicals, it's strange that if that's what they want, they make a habit of sending their daughters to college, teaching them how to shoot, etc, etc. My father got up and made my mother coffee before she got out of bed, even though he didn't drink the stuff...
  3. LordsFire

    United States Why Do Libertarians Always Lose?

    If I started a thread on this, would you engage in discussion of the topic there?
  4. LordsFire

    United States Why Do Libertarians Always Lose?

    That's revisionist Propaganda. Every single Founding Father except for Thomas Jefferson was a Christian. Benjamin Franklin very briefly flirted with Deism, but he rejected it as foolishness very shortly thereafter. Jefferson also explicitly believed in the moral principles that Christianity...
  5. LordsFire

    United States Why Do Libertarians Always Lose?

    It's one thing for you to argue that Christianity is not true. I've had that argument many times. Your argument would carry more weight if it was evidence-based, rather than basically an appeal to truth not existing, because 'anybody can argue for anything.' For you to argue that the sort of...
  6. LordsFire

    United States Why Do Libertarians Always Lose?

    I expect if the pendulum swings to Christianity being in the cultural center, the left will be pushing those policies, not the right.
  7. LordsFire

    United States Why Do Libertarians Always Lose?

    When? I can't think of any time post-Civil War that the left has been in favor of the Constitution.
  8. LordsFire

    United States Why Do Libertarians Always Lose?

    Constitutionalism is right-leaning. And not just a little bit, either; the left at this point is violently anti-constitution. As BLM and Antifa have been showing.
  9. LordsFire

    United States Why Do Libertarians Always Lose?

    I'm not arguing for a theocracy. I'm arguing that Christian morality is both more coherent and more true than any secularist ideology. America was founded on Christian principles, and part of that was that the government would not hold religious authority, and in fact was specifically not...
  10. LordsFire

    United States Why Do Libertarians Always Lose?

    If you're going to make that kind of argument, we should abandon debate altogether, and start stockpiling guns and minions. Just because people claim a thing is true, does not mean it's true. Just because people claim the Bible says something, does not mean that it actually says that something...
  11. LordsFire

    United States Why Do Libertarians Always Lose?

    When you reject God, inevitably some men will become as gods. In ye olden days, they were more explicit about it; the Chinese and Japanese Emperors were considered divine, and similar claims were made by/of Babylonian and Roman rulers. More recently, it's the 'dear leader,' see Lenin, Stalin...
  12. LordsFire

    United States Why Do Libertarians Always Lose?

    You missed my point. The damage done to society at large is evidence of how redefinition of sexual ethics is harmful, not the reason it is harmful. The redefinition of sexual ethics is harmful because humans don't get to define what is right and wrong. And secular Libertarianism tries to do...
  13. LordsFire

    United States Why Do Libertarians Always Lose?

    Okay, now define 'hurt,' define 'their stuff,' and explain why it is morally wrong, rather than something you just don't like, from a secular framework. And here we get to the root of it. Who gets to define that promiscuity isn't harmful? Because even to a secularist, it has demonstrably had...
  14. LordsFire

    United States Why Do Libertarians Always Lose?

    There are four questions a worldview must answer: 1. Origin. 2. Purpose. 3. Morality. 4. Destiny. Where do we come from, why are we here, what should we do, and where are we going? In the West, these used to be answered by Christianity. We were created by God, our purpose is to be in...
  15. LordsFire

    United States Why Do Libertarians Always Lose?

    So, I've been homeless before. I've stayed at a homeless shelter before. It kind of sucked. One of the things that stands out to me the most, is that the most part of the people at that shelter, were visibly making bad decisions and/or had horrible attitudes. Several of them were literally...
  16. LordsFire

    United States Why Do Libertarians Always Lose?

    That's it in a nutshell. It bewilders me that you support UBI in spite of knowing this. Once you implement that, an increasing number of people will just decide it's better to vote to increase UBI rather than try working harder. It's a recipe for further social collapse and economic disaster.
  17. LordsFire

    United States Why Do Libertarians Always Lose?

    Oh, are you talking to me again? There's a reason I was quoting Abhorsen, not you. If you'll actually engage me in discussion, I'll start responding to you as well.
  18. LordsFire

    United States Why Do Libertarians Always Lose?

    This is a fundamentally flawed scaling function, because it uses a hard-leftist definition of 'equality.' American Conservatives are, and basically always have been, for equality before the eyes of the law, equal dignity and rights. We also support equality of opportunity, but not in the...
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