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I mean we can look at battle fleet gothic games and see fleets that are under 20 ships. So I’d say same number as Star Wars?

Most traitors are chaos yes but there are still many who aren’t severan dominate for instance. The galactic empire does not have an ongoing succession in its borders. Yes they have rebels but those are insurgents and terrorists. They haven’t taken part of the empire’s territory called...

The Imperium has even more infighting and traitors than the galactic empire which is ironic. You are right about Guilliman though. But he just got back it will take time for him to unfuck things.

The Imperiums normal forces that aren’t space marines don’t fight any better than the galactic empire.

Dude in battle fleet gothic anything less than a dauntless is shit and I don’t bother using them.

Again though the Imperium doesn’t have that many capital ships either it’s not like they have millions of dauntless or retribution classes. They probably also have a few thousand. I’d say ISDs are stronger than escorts like sword or whatever they are proper capital ships on the same level as a...

Proof that Imperium ships outrange the empire? ICS calcs are pretty good and battle fleet gothic calcs can be pretty low.

I don't think a color change is enough to qualify as a new or different design. But yes the color on the Venators does look better than just a plain gray. Ahh you meant Old Republic era like the Hammerheads, not clone wars era Republic.

But they have the same design? The only difference between the Imperial star destroyer and the Venator is a small size difference and that the Republic painted a red line on theirs while the empire just has a grey mono color.

They look cool and are effective. Since it's design allows all the turrets to fire at the same time if facing fowards, yet if it's caught on it's side then it won't be any worse than Imperium battleships instead of with broadsides who can ONLY fire half their guns at the same time at most.

Yes that’s true but storm troopers aren’t the majority of the Imperial armed forces. There is the Imperial army troopers also. And Star Wars worlds vary just like in 40k they have city worlds, they have worlds like ours and they also have outback shitholes like Tatooine.

Not every Imperium world is a fortress world. And while every world is expected to have a PDF most of them are shit the same as Arab armies, or maybe Russian or Chinese. I would not be surprised if only 1 percent of the Imperiums mortal troops are as good as western military forces.

How fast was that is my question. Also technology matters too. Eldar, Necron, old one ftl is more advanced than Imperium ftl drive. Without chaos are you saying they could cross the galaxy in a day?

I don’t think so. What is the average top speed of a ship to go from one side of the galaxy to another. Star Wars is either a week or a month. While 40k does have some faster times like showing up BEFORE they left. Crossing the galaxy in under a year is still not really a thing. Hell a slow time...