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    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    This is somewhat unironically a case: if one of our drivers get sick, the CEO can trust (well, maybe less now as I think that system is slowly falling appart), but at least there's a system in place to handle that. If the scheme above of automating truck loading and loading was implemented with...
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    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    I don't care because AI WON'T DRIVE COST. You keep thinking of this as a programing issue, instead of a manufacturing issue. That is my criticism. The AI is not a long term problem, for similar issues as what you've said: the AI, at least theoretically, is mostly R&D expenses. You yourself...
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    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    @Bear Ribs statement 1 "I don't even know where to begin with your idea that you can pay people 5 bucks an hour in this day and age and expect to have any employees. " Statement 2 "we already know that jobs aren't keeping up with population growth" So, there are not enough jobs, but people...
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    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    Okay, its possible, as I've already said. What do you think your proving with this? It all comes down to the cost of automating the person out of the system, vs continuing to use labor. This kind of automation tends to be, well, expensive. To use your robotic lawn mower, it costs $1,500 looking...
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    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    @Bear Ribs My main argument with the boxing is that machine learning isn't doing that, a forklift is doing that. Things that are pure information, like tax filing or playing music, are very automatable, and potentially very cheap. Automating for example a trumpet player is dirt cheap: I'm...
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    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    Well, something clearly happened in 1971, but like you say its not clear exactly what. Listening to an interview with the people who put it together, they're classical libertarians/austrians, so their instinct of what to blame is the closing of the gold window and moving to more "funny money"...
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    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    Well, that's the thing, Chinese wages have doubled in the last 10 years. And that's on top of a double in the previous 10 years. Average Chinese wages are in the $1,000 per month range. I think its the non-thinking parts that are actually the hardest part of the human to replace. Machine...
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    United States California approves 1st state-funded guaranteed income plan

    A large part of my doubts regarding the "every job is going to be automated away" I think boils down to two points: 1) Humans as machines are extremely cheap to upkeep. At current prices humans can be fed fairly good food for about $4,000 per year, a little over $10 per day. Many people make do...
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