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    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    hm, im not getting the image
  2. J

    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    Hm, your numbers actually line up roughly with mine, of roughly 1 meter and 20 meters. Keep in mind with the comparison to the 20x102 round you are talking about something a bit bigger than I was picturing: the statted out 75 caliber I made has an overall length of roughly 100 mm. the 102mm...
  3. J

    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    In per round damage effect, probably. 40 mm is dramatically bigger. A 75 cal bolter warhead has something like 8-10 cubic cm of volume. Likely around 50 grams of payload. A 40 mm has closer to 70 cubic cm, and a similarly designed shell would hav roughly 400 grams of mass. A round optimized for...
  4. J

    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    Oh yeah, that's definitely not the lore. It does make more sense of the physicals design through, such as the bolt ejection lining up with the smaller barrel.
  5. J

    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    Hm, that actually seems roughly in line with how bolters in human hands gets depicted in "realistic" art sytle: Some are a little bit less conservative, but not ridiculously so. It would make more sense though if that upper barrel was the one the bolter comes out of, the bottom giant one...
  6. J

    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    Hm, could you take a picture with a hand or such to scale, maybe do some exact measurements? Well, the interesting thing about the 50 cal design is that the "projectile" portion is roughly the same weight as a 50 cal Desert Eagle, but a bit longer since the explosive is low volume. The rocket...
  7. J

    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    Building up a more structured, formal way to look at this question (building an excel spreadsheet), some better estimates of shell volume, propellant volume, and automatic calculations of muzzle velocity and armor penetration allowed more easy "prototyping" of designs. Bellow, I compared bolter...
  8. J

    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    True, its definitely there to increase on target damage. Its good I think to confirm just how little range it does have however. Like, if you have "glancing" shot, say an arm, does it still put a bunch of shrapnel/overpressure to do damage to the chest as well (assuming an arm is enough...
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    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    Looking to figure out the effectiveness of the explosives, this little seems like its fairly minimal. https://www.metabunk.org/attachments/blast-effect-calculation-1-pdf.2578/ A full kg of explosives has a danger range of 6-10 meters on pure blast. 5 grams for linear guess would be something...
  10. J

    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    Well, we do theoretically get to about 20 mm of penetration with the "rifle" bolter round: those rounds are a bit big for normal humans to carry around, but as a storm bolter or other heavy weapon emplacement isn't too bad at all. A good explosive payload also adds some amount to effective...
  11. J

    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    Though, maybe you could have a HESH like effect? Initial penetration, then detonation within the armor with the explosives if something plastic like C4 squishing into the hole or spreading out across the surface? That might also be ideal against hard infantry targets: its strong enough to...
  12. J

    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    Well, that's the thing though: that design doesn't really work. if the Diamantine is already stronger enough than steel not to shatter or squash, it degree of superiorty over the steel does not matter to penetration, only cross sectional energy density. And, well, filling your projectile with...
  13. J

    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    Yeah, one reason I focused on the "imperial" rounds, rather than Space Marine rounds, is because I've got a better sense of what a reasonable scale is, and it minimizes special materials: Imperial guard rounds seem likely to have to be manufactured almost anywhere. Thus, a round that can be...
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    Warhammer 40K Plausible 40K equipment: "Imperial" Bolter

    40k is a common topic of discussion in what ifs and vs. A lot of arguments however come down to questions of what equipment can actually do. Thus, this thread, with a goal of discussing "reasonable" stats for 40K equipment, to hopefully in the end act as forum headcannon for future discussion...
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